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Old 12-23-2012, 07:37 PM   #31
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We win with Ben and lose with Ben. Im dissappointed in the manner we lost, sure. But this team has not been prepared to play for the past 5 weeks.

The Def played great, till they go soft. The O, just sucked again, starts off slow and can never get in sync.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:07 PM   #32
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I'd take Arians over Haley. Any day. At least we could fucking put up more than 20 points with Arians.
Yes, but that was the defense.
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Old 12-24-2012, 06:16 AM   #33
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Soft lazy and predictable - the lack of creativity and stale play-calling I was talking about was all on Haley, not Ben.

Cincy knew all his plays from the start, every time the ballcarrier was alone 8 yds deep in the backfield it was a run. One deep ball for a TD and they never called another one.
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:40 AM   #34
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Arians was some garbage! Never tried to run, even in games where the run is working, never used Heath, and that chuck it deep and/or bubble screens on 2nd or3rd and shorts was crazy. Plus he was getting Ben killed. Haley trying to get this team a run game and he will once we get a back that'll fit his system, and he knows how valuable Heath is. Young $ crew under achieved big time this year and Ben also cost us some games. There were check downs he could've taken or thrown the ball away instead of taking some of these sacks he took. Not to mentioned, the pics he's thrown were to guys that were open, he just over threw or under threw the receivers. Things for him will get easier once he gets that running game he desperately needs. We need time for this young oline to gel and a stud RB is a must since Wallace might be leaving.
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:55 AM   #35
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Bland, boring and predictable is no way to run an offense

Fire Haley!
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:36 AM   #36
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Dean Wormer, "Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life son."
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:40 AM   #37
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Arians was some garbage! Never tried to run, even in games where the run is working, never used Heath, and that chuck it deep and/or bubble screens on 2nd or3rd and shorts was crazy. Plus he was getting Ben killed. Haley trying to get this team a run game and he will once we get a back that'll fit his system, and he knows how valuable Heath is. Young $ crew under achieved big time this year and Ben also cost us some games. There were check downs he could've taken or thrown the ball away instead of taking some of these sacks he took. Not to mentioned, the pics he's thrown were to guys that were open, he just over threw or under threw the receivers. Things for him will get easier once he gets that running game he desperately needs. We need time for this young oline to gel and a stud RB is a must since Wallace might be leaving.
A running back isn't going to replace what Wallace can do for this offense...
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:09 AM   #38
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A running back isn't going to replace what Wallace can do for this offense...
Fumble the ball and command single coverage?
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:05 AM   #39
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How many times has Wallace fumbled the ball in his 4 years with us?

I can recall 2 right away, there may be more, but he's hardly a serial fumbler unless I'm failing to recall a lot of fumbles.
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:14 AM   #40
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WTH are you doing? Having an intelligent post will get you in trouble. You are suppose to grab pitchforks and join the mob outside Arians residence and burn him in effigy. Arians is like Stewart was as QB, not the best but not as bad as most would lead you to believe. 20 years from now some of the Ben bashers will tell their grankids how they watched the greatest QB in Steeler history and will forget about the last two games.
I know right, sometimes it seems like people just want simple solutions or explanation or to hold a witchhunt when it comes to pro sports. It's unfortunate that the most stubborn people with the least to add to the conversation are often the most prolific, lighting up a message board with 200 posts saying the same thing.

The bias against Arians is kind of comical from Pittsburgh fans, there was a poster on here earlier this year trying to tell me Arians is obsessed with Pittsburgh and "always" taking jabs at the team for, get this:

Saying Andrew Luck is the smartest QB he's ever coached (this was suppossed to be a jab at Roethlisberger... never mind that it's only a compliment about Luck and Arians has coached Peyton Manning too... I doubt he was thinking of insulting former QBs he's worked with and respected all because he is impressed with Luck...) Talk about delusional

Other posters have made ridiculous claims about Arians, a few even saying he "always" ran an empty backfield on 3rd & 1, even though when I asked them they failed to site any specific examples except once in Cleveland in 2009.

It's just bias, they decide they hate him and exaggerate his faults while trying to dismiss his successes as a product of being surrounded by talent. I'm not that huge of a fan either, I was glad when we dumped him as OC, but people are acting like every score or play we made during his 5 years here was in spite of him and all the bad plays/games were explicitly his fault. It's ridiculous.
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