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Old 12-24-2012, 09:30 AM   #21
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if some of you people want to throw blame "only at the QB", try putting either Tom Brady or Peyton Manning behind our complete dogs**t offensive line. If Mr. Brady was playing for us yesterday, it would have been same result, probably worse. He's worse under pressure than Ben is. Those guys have all day and then some back there to do basically anything they want to do.
As bad as the "QB-ing" was yesterday - the OL was 3X worse. They were getting their doors blown off. Getting completely mowed down. DeCastro got used like a rubber in particular. I'm hoping he was just favoring his past injury and will improve - i'm sure he will.
How bad was our O-line the last time we won the super bowl?
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:32 AM   #22
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"We did things to give us a chance to win the game, but I blew it," Roethlisberger said.
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:37 AM   #23
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if some of you people want to throw blame "only at the QB", try putting either Tom Brady or Peyton Manning behind our complete dogs**t offensive line. If Mr. Brady was playing for us yesterday, it would have been same result, probably worse. He's worse under pressure than Ben is. Those guys have all day and then some back there to do basically anything they want to do.
As bad as the "QB-ing" was yesterday - the OL was 3X worse. They were getting their doors blown off. Getting completely mowed down. DeCastro got used like a rubber in particular. I'm hoping he was just favoring his past injury and will improve - i'm sure he will.
Im so sick of hearing this. Rodgers has just as bad of a line. There were a few sacks were the defense just shot right in but Ben had 3 seconds or more on a lot of throws and thats all you can ask for
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:39 AM   #24
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It was the second game in a row in which Ben Roethlisberger's final pass was intercepted and resulted in the winning field goal. This one, though, was no surprise. Roethlisberger played his worst game of the year, beginning with the interception return for touchdown on his third attempt of the game. He was sacked four times, looked indecisive and converted 2 of 14 third-down chances. The only bright spot was a 60-yard TD pass at the end of the first half.

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Im so sick of hearing this. Rodgers has just as bad of a line. There were a few sacks were the defense just shot right in but Ben had 3 seconds or more on a lot of throws and thats all you can ask for
I actually found a site that is doing some time comparisons on the lines and QB's. Since everyone is always arguing this here, it might be interesting to a few of you.

First, the average "Time to throw" stat, and the explanation of what it measures...

"We record the time from when the ball is snapped to the point where the quarterback has either thrown a pass or can no longer throw a pass (has been sacked or has scrambled past the line of scrimmage)."

QB Seconds
Ben 2.73
Brady 2.49
Eli 2.59
Rodgers 2.76
Manning 2.51


Now, we compare with the following number, which is the average time between the snap to a sack...

QB Seconds
Ben 2.56
Brady 3.26
Eli 3.04
Rodgers 3.62
Manning 2.5


And finally, here's a percentage of snaps where a given QB gets the ball out in under 2.5 seconds...

QB %
Ben 50
Brady 59.1
Eli 52
Rodgers 52
Manning 55.3


So based on this, Ben gets less time than everyone but Manning, but also holds onto the ball the longest. Unfortunately for the "Brady would do just as bad here" crowd, that doesn't seem to be the case. While they do longer from their lines(Except Manning), these numbers suggest that if Eli, Peyton, or Brady took over for Ben, they would still do just as good, because they routinely get the ball away faster than our protection allows pass rushers in.
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Why did we go 1-5 down the stretch?

Very simple:

[youtube]Zyn9uhlswGQ[/youtube]

If anybody honestly and seriously thinks he has been healthy since that game, they're delusional.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:58 AM   #27
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Why did we go 1-5 down the stretch?

Very simple:

[youtube]Zyn9uhlswGQ[/youtube]

If anybody honestly and seriously thinks he has been healthy since that game, they're delusional.
Thank you!!! But I will take it one step further. If you can watch the KC game again; you will see that even before Ben got hurt; the Steelers offence couldn't do shit. My point is Crennel gave the NFL the blueprint how to stop Haleys offence. It's a copy cat league. It's been all down hill from there.
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no running game after adams/colon got injured

you can't be 1 dimensional in today's offense, unless you have unbelievable talent at qb (rodgers/brady/manning). ben is good but simply not as good as those 3
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no running game after adams/colon got injured

you can't be 1 dimensional in today's offense, unless you have unbelievable talent at qb (rodgers/brady/manning). ben is good but simply not as good as those 3
absolutely. I know people are pretty down on our RB's. They have their problems, but when our O-line was pushing ppl around they were looking great. In the last few games nobody has respected our running game

Haley and Tomlin have to come up with a solution to this problem, because I expect injuries on the line every season.
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Why? It's very, very simple: inconsistency
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