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Old 12-28-2012, 03:48 PM   #21
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And atleast half of those "drive-killers" were all on Ben, unless you missed the last few games of this season. ?
No, I'm talking about when he was actually healthy and in the discussion for league MVP and blowing the rest of the league away in 3rd down conversions, but play revisionist history all you want. There's plenty of it going on here.

Without a healthy Roethlisberger through the first nine games, this team is looking at 2-14/3-13 right now instead of 7-9/8-8. Bottom line.
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:51 PM   #22
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Batch 1-1 as a starter and 4 ints and 1 TD in 2 games and he played much better than Ben, Sorry but that kind of reasoning is why the economy is going to hell in a hand basket.
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:54 PM   #23
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No, I'm talking about when he was actually healthy and in the discussion for league MVP and blowing the rest of the league away in 3rd down conversions, but play revisionist history all you want. There's plenty of it going on here.

Without a healthy Roethlisberger through the first nine games, this team is looking at 2-14/3-13 right now instead of 7-9/8-8. Bottom line.
Exactly, and that is the point.
According to what we can read, Ben "WAS" supposedly healthy, this latter season, and he still failed miserably.
So I dunno, you're version of healthy is 2008 ?
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Exactly, and that is the point.
Ben "WAS" supposedly healthy, this latter season, and he still failed miserably.
So I dunno, you're version of healthy is 2008 ?
Anybody who honestly thinks he was truly 100% healthy the last 3 games needs to put down the crack pipe and back slowly away from it.

My version of "healthy" was the first nine games of this season, when he really WAS healthy, and his play reflected it.

If there's anything that the last 6 games have proven is that this team needs to get a viable backup QB in place. Batch/Leftwich ain't getting it.
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Old 12-28-2012, 04:01 PM   #25
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Batch 1-1 as a starter and 4 ints and 1 TD in 2 games and he played much better than Ben, Sorry but that kind of reasoning is why the economy is going to hell in a hand basket.
Remeber early last year, year before, whatever, when Batch won 3 outta 4 during Ben's suspension ?
Batch, when he does play, plays consistenl, but Batch does NOT play often, so therein lies the ultimate Ben question?

I'm not even saying keep Batch, I'm saying dunp Batch, Leftwich, and start looking for a real Ben replecement, 'cause this Ben is seeing "footsteps" behind him, these days, no Heart n Soul man left.
Economy? - hahaha.
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Sorry Katana but your hatred of Ben has been obvious for some time and it clouds you opinion of him. All one has to do is read your past posts and they will draw the same conclusions. According to you Ben has not contributed to any of the Steeler success, yet is responsible for most of the shortcomings. For example you will constantly defend the defense even if they play poorly. just like last years playoff game. That was Ben's and the offenses fault, they should of scored more. Or how bout the collapse of 2009 when the defense could not hold a 4th quarter lead even after the offense scored to take the leads late in several games, (remember the GB game where Tomlin basically let them score so we could at least try to score late, he lost complete faith in the defense.) And now Batch is a better QB than Ben and he plays 2 games and has one dismal showing and has one great game, but overall 1TD and 4 INTs, and a QB rating of around 65. I cannot take your points serious since you so obviously spout them with a disdain for the Steeler QB. Now if you want to talk drafting for the future then I will agree but this fodder about benching Ben is crazy.
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Anybody who honestly thinks he was truly 100% healthy the last 3 games needs to put down the crack pipe and back slowly away from it.

My version of "healthy" was the first nine games of this season, when he really WAS healthy, and his play reflected it.

If there's anything that the last 6 games have proven is that this team needs to get a viable backup QB in place. Batch/Leftwich ain't getting it.
And what were those first nine games, I guess they were real Ben driven winners even then ???, we LOST to the "easy" pickens'.
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This season sucked Offensively, Ben & Co., that we ALL agree on, and if Ben was a 100% during those 9 games, well, it doesn't show it, and NO ONE is talkin' 'bout it.!
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And what ere those first nine games, biy theye were real Ben driven winners even then, we lost to the "easy" pickens'.
-Lol.
This season sucked Offensively, that we ALL agree on, and if Ben was a 100% during those 9 games, well, it doesn't show it, and NO ONE is talkin' 'bout it.!
He threw 4 TDs in Oakland against no INTs, and that loss was the offense's fault? OK.

And PLENTY of people were talking about Roethlisberger at midseason regarding the MVP: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/11/...halfway-point/

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QB Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh – The Steelers seemed like just another team at the start of the season. The AFC North seemed to be in the pocket of the Baltimore Ravens and the Steelers looked like they were going to have a hard time holding off Cincinnati for second place. The Steelers had injuries at the running back position and the defense didn’t look good enough to get it done. But in the last few weeks, Roethlisberger has looked at all of those factors and has laughed. He has completed 200-of-298 passes for 2,203 yards with 16 TDs and 4 interceptions. When Roethlisberger can stay away from the picks, good things are going to happen for the Steelers. He remains the massive mountain in the pocket that he’s always been, but he’s avoiding the turnovers. Last year he threw 14 interceptions and he is playing much better football and his team is responding.
Like I said, keep playing revisionist history all you want. Without Ben lighting it up in the first half of the season, this team is looking at 2-14 right now as opposed to 7-9/8-8.
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And what were those first nine games, I guess they were real Ben driven winners even then ???, we LOST to the "easy" pickens'.
-Lol.
This season sucked Offensively, Ben & Co., that we ALL agree on, and if Ben was a 100% during those 9 games, well, it doesn't show it, and NO ONE is talkin' 'bout it.!
Defense had a good deal to do with those first 3 losses. Just saying. Easy pickings aside, wins at NY and Cincy and at home against the Redskins. You are losing all your street cred on these kind of statements.
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