364/575, 4,179 yards, 33 TD, 10 INT

[Bayz101]

Originally Posted by Millers the sh!t

0/0 0 yards 0 td 0 int. Bens playoffs stats this year. Superbowl included.

Can't win one every year.

[Bayz101]

Originally Posted by torpedoshell31

Another good solid season by Ben. If he doesn't get hurt in the Chief's game who knows how things would have turned out. However, the last minute drives when he usually won the game weren't there for the most part this year.

He actually led two game-winning drives this year. Maybe three, actually, haven't went back and looked.

[Bayz101]

Just went back and looked, and the number is three. One against Philadelphia, another against Cincinnati and the final one against the Giants. The Eagles and Giants games we're also fourth-quarter comebacks.

[Ricco Suavez]

Originally Posted by Bayz101

I could understand the "accept" correction, but an apostrophe?!

THAT'S trollin'.

Let him have his fun Bayz, English was not my best subject. I know this is a forum and while the rules are loose as far as spelling and punctuation, I try to adhere to some semblance to the written word. I find myself opening other tabs to spell words at times. Its like I told my son when he got into the habit of constantly using 4 letter words, "the only one who comes off looking stupid is you, if you wish to succeed in a professional environment, then you can't use coarse language in your everyday conversations." Not that most us do not use that kind of talk from time to time but to hear it constantly lends a person to view that person as illiterate. BTW I had to check the spelling of Semblance, Environment, and Illiterate.

[rpbncb]

IF If If If IF !!!! IF my aunt had _alls she'd be my uncle !!! You if-ers are pathetic !! A complete pile of _hit season as stillers man pointed out. Team needs a complete facelift. Admit it, quit giving free passes and move on !!

[Millers the sh!t]

Originally Posted by Bayz101

Can't win one every year.

I know I know..... I'm just still bitter as grapefruit skins.

Where's Hipchest at? I haven't seen him posting much of anything recently. You were off the radar for a while too. Happy New years bro.

[pczach]

I can't believe some of you people. You've gotten to see #7 play and win games for this franchise from the first second he stepped foot on the field for the Steelers. For those of you who think he is an average quarterback or worse, your lack of football intellect is not worthy of a response. For those of you who quote statistics as the end-all standard of rating the order of top Qb's in the league, you are not far behind the others.As for the empty line for his playoff performance this year, you are correct. He will not attempt or complete a single pass for a single yard this year. Now why don't you put up Ben's playoff record, his playoff numbers, his come-from-behind and game-winning drives, and his end of game calm that is league-wide legendary, but that has apparantly been unnoticed or forgotten by many spoiled fans here at this forum.

[torpedoshell31]

Originally Posted by Bayz101

He actually led two game-winning drives this year. Maybe three, actually, haven't went back and looked.

Obviously I don't expect Ben to pull every game out or we would have been 16-0. His track record through the years shows that when the game is on the line he usually finds a way to win. That is why it was so surprising to see the last minute picks against the Cowboys and Bengals and the Broncos in the first game.

[fansince'76]

Originally Posted by Bayz101

Just went back and looked, and the number is three. One against Philadelphia, another against Cincinnati and the final one against the Giants. The Eagles and Giants games we're also fourth-quarter comebacks.

But if he was as awesome as Brady and Manning, we wouldn't have needed comebacks in those games because we would have won by eighty thousand million points!

[NSMaster56]

This discussion could go and/or be dissected many different ways.

Did Big Ben have a good season? Yes
Did the O still struggle despite his good season? Yes
If the Steelers had made the playoffs and/or won the SB (Ben 'just won games') would we care about his stats or lackthereof? No
Is it Big Ben's fault that the Steelers O struggled overall? Highly subjective; cases could be made either way
Is it possible for Big Ben to put up gawdy Brees-like numbers, and lead a top-ranked O AND lead the Steelers to a title? Who knows? But probably not. If perfection were that easy everyone would do it.

Lots of players on this team had good individual years that still led to team failure. There is no one person to blame.

In the end players, coaches and fans must be smart enough to not blame one individual, but look at and improve upon the collective.

Yes, team improvement starts with and depends on each individual player, but, in sports, failure, like success, is a group effort.

That what this team needs to remember.

Screw stats. Just win baby.