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Old 12-31-2012, 04:22 PM   #21
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Default Re: Is wrong That I hate the Cheats more than the Rats

I still can't answer this even after these two teams played in the AFC championship last year. Now, I admit, I probably do hate the Ravens slightly less in part because I do root for the Orioles in baseball. But Harbaugh really grates the crap out of me and while I recognize he's an all time great linebacker, I just wish someone would tell Ray Lewis to stop acting like a drama queen. On the other hand, it's hard not to hate a team that denied you not one but two trips to the Super Bowl. And most of the Pats fans I know with some exceptions are band-wagoners with no affiliation whatsoever with the New England area. They just liked the flashy offense that Brady and Belichick started developing in the mid 2000's and would have probably been bored watching the Pats teams that actually won SBs. Of course, Ravens fans can be just as annoying, I don't need you to shout shit at me just for wearing Pittsburgh gear on a Maryland beach. So I guess I'm undecided. I was happy when Lee Evans had the ball snatched out of him and I compared Billy Cundiff to Ray Finkle after he missed the FG but I got an equal joy at the Giants ruining the Pats chances again. The Ravens hatred is more based in the rivalry. I think if they weren't a division rival, I could respect them some. Pats aren't a division rival and I hate them. So I guess using that metric, it's probably the Pats but it's close. And of course Spygate plays a role here too.
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:12 PM   #22
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I think bandwagon fans just naturally inspire hate for their teams. I despised the Cowboys because of their fans in the 90's who were everywhere and all of course claiming to be fans of the team since the ancient days I live in Massachusetts and I'm sure all of those people are probably "long time Patriot fans" now, too.

But I definitely don't think that reflects on the local New England fan base. Every area has lots of people who just float with whatever team they think is stylish or fun to watch or championship contenders.

People take a lot of shots at Patriot fans for being a bandwagon fan base and non existent before 2011. That simply isn't true. I went to the old Foxboro stadium twice when I was a little kid and I remember that crummy little stadium being packed and loud, and that was in the 80's.

I became a fan in 1993/1994 when I really started watching football (13/14 years old) and the Patriots were on the rise with the Bledsoe / Tuna era. I remember plenty of Patriot fans.
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:23 PM   #23
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Anyway, in my opinion, the Patriots are worthy of much more Steeler hate then the Ravens are.

It's an indisputable FACT that Tom Brady owns the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Owns. Isn't his all time record against you like 8-2 or something? With most of those victories coming in the form of 35+ points against the vaunted Pittsburgh defense?

What's Baltimore honestly REALLY done to warrant even being in the same category of hate as the Patriots? Linger in your division? Borrow the division title every once in awhile?

My all time favorite season against the Steelers came in the lead up to our third Superbowl. You broke our game winning streak and then one of your players started yelling ony our field that the Patriots aren't on your level.

In the play offs, later that year, after shutting down Peyton's Colts, went into Heinz Field and ended your season on the way to our Dynasty trophy.

That was when my hate for the Steelers was at its greatest. That year and every year that followed until 2012.

The Ravens? Really?

If you're going to hate anyone. hate us.
Cause' you're not on our level.
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:32 PM   #24
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Old 01-01-2013, 02:58 AM   #25
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I think you secretly love the Steelers.
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Anyway, in my opinion, the Patriots are worthy of much more Steeler hate then the Ravens are.

It's an indisputable FACT that Tom Brady owns the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Owns. Isn't his all time record against you like 8-2 or something? With most of those victories coming in the form of 35+ points against the vaunted Pittsburgh defense?

What's Baltimore honestly REALLY done to warrant even being in the same category of hate as the Patriots? Linger in your division? Borrow the division title every once in awhile?

My all time favorite season against the Steelers came in the lead up to our third Superbowl. You broke our game winning streak and then one of your players started yelling ony our field that the Patriots aren't on your level.

In the play offs, later that year, after shutting down Peyton's Colts, went into Heinz Field and ended your season on the way to our Dynasty trophy.

That was when my hate for the Steelers was at its greatest. That year and every year that followed until 2012.

The Ravens? Really?

If you're going to hate anyone. hate us.
Cause' you're not on our level.
Look dude. I'm a Ravens fan. I come on here, I talk a little friendly trash, I take my lumps when we lose, I try to give the Steelers credit where due and be honest about the failings of my own team. At the same time, I try to stick up for the Ravens when things get ridiculous, like when Ray Rice got that towel from a Steelers fan and some folks on here were acting like he was Rae Carruth.

What you are doing is, IMHO, far different. You sound like a total douche that doesn't have enough going on in his own life so you need to live your life through your football team. That's sad. Get a girlfriend, get a blowup doll. Reread some of your old science fiction novels that you haven't looked at for weeks. Go to another Star Trek convention, maybe practice shaving for when you get older. Get away from the computer and reconnect with real life, ya know?
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Old 01-01-2013, 02:39 PM   #27
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What you are doing is, IMHO, far different. You sound like a total douche that doesn't have enough going on in his own life so you need to live your life through your football team. That's sad. Get a girlfriend, get a blowup doll. Reread some of your old science fiction novels that you haven't looked at for weeks. Go to another Star Trek convention, maybe practice shaving for when you get older. Get away from the computer and reconnect with real life, ya know?
It sounds like you're taking his comments about the Ravens a little personally which completely negates the bold part of your comment. I mean, let's all just chill.

I hate the Patriots more than the Ravens, but that's because most of the time, the Ravens are insignificant. Sure, they borrow our title once and a while but for the most part, they're not a very good team. Flacco doesn't strike fear in my heart and RayRay hasn't been effective for years. Case in point, when Gronkowski made Lewis his bitch earlier this year - that might have been the funniest shit I've ever seen.

It's also a family-feud thing, too. We're all huge football fans in my house and my brother happens to be a Pats fan which automatically means I despise his team by default. But, for the most part, I feel as if the Steelers - Patriots rivalry is one of the most underrated ones in the NFL.
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Old 01-01-2013, 02:40 PM   #28
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It sounds like you're taking his comments about the Ravens a little personally which completely negates the bold part of your comment. .
Nah. He's a douche.
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Old 01-01-2013, 02:49 PM   #29
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And he still has no sound answer for my simple question.
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Look dude. I'm a Ravens fan. I come on here, I talk a little friendly trash, I take my lumps when we lose, I try to give the Steelers credit where due and be honest about the failings of my own team. At the same time, I try to stick up for the Ravens when things get ridiculous, like when Ray Rice got that towel from a Steelers fan and some folks on here were acting like he was Rae Carruth.

What you are doing is, IMHO, far different. You sound like a total douche that doesn't have enough going on in his own life so you need to live your life through your football team. That's sad. Get a girlfriend, get a blowup doll. Reread some of your old science fiction novels that you haven't looked at for weeks. Go to another Star Trek convention, maybe practice shaving for when you get older. Get away from the computer and reconnect with real life, ya know?
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