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Old 01-02-2013, 10:33 AM   #151
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I agree with you on Will Johnson, and, I'm not sure where you are coming from with wanting power football. Do you mean pound and ground - or do you mean the other definition - balance and running it well enough that the defense respects it, and utilizing them as additional receiving options?
I formation and runs up the gut. Yeah, use run to set up the pass. Ben is brilliant from play action.

RBs caught a LOT of passes this year. Haley was using RB screens as a running game. The RB receiving yardage should really be added to the rushing yardage.

That is the logical step if your OL can't run block - get the ball to your RBs through the air.

Next year- if healthy- I see good things for the OL. I really like Adams.
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Let's try a little intellectual honesty. Mendenhall came off a season that ended with his knee being torn apart. Mendenhall ran the ball 51 times last year and his health is in question. The other 2 running backs have performed admirably considering they are a 6th rd draft pick and UDFA repsectively.

Mendenhall contributed 928 yds on 4.1 to Arians and 182 yds on 3.6 to Haley.

Let's wait until Haley has a feature back to pass judgement on his offense.

We wouldn't want anyone to accuse you of twisting stats to blame everyone but Ben.

Kudos to Haley for producing more points than Arians last offense in spite of the lack of a feature back, and a slew of OL injuries!

I am not blaming the players because I know Mendenhall was injured, but you give the running game or lack of a free ride and acknowledge that this played no part in the offense, you need a good shot of reality.
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I am not blaming the players because I know Mendenhall was injured, but you give the running game or lack of a free ride and acknowledge that this played no part in the offense, you need a good shot of reality.
Pitt 26th rushing 22nd scoring
NO 25th rushing 2nd scoring
Atl 27th rushing 7th scoring
Dal 31st rushing 15th scoring

Anything else? Oh yeah Ben was hurt for 3 games fair enough. If you look at the 12 games Ben was not hurt in they scored 22.5 per game. That's good enough for 15th in the league.

Still no where near 2nd or 7th.
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Pitt 26th rushing 22nd scoring
NO 25th rushing 2nd scoring
Atl 27th rushing 7th scoring
Dal 31st rushing 15th scoring

Anything else? Oh yeah Ben was hurt for 3 games fair enough. If you look at the 12 games Ben was not hurt in they scored 22.5 per game. That's good enough for 15th in the league.

Still no where near 2nd or 7th.
Rodgers?

One Ring.

Peyton Manning?

One Ring.

Brees?

One Ring.

The only "elite" Quarterback you list with more rings than Eli and Ben (average QB's) is Tom Brady. Who did Tom Brady lose his two Super Bowl's to? Eli Manning.

Elite? In a fantasy football league, maybe. We can't win a Super Bowl every year and our offense won't be great every year. Get over it.
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Rodgers?

One Ring.

Peyton Manning?

One Ring.

Brees?

One Ring.

The only "elite" Quarterback you list with more rings than Eli and Ben (average QB's) is Tom Brady. Who did Tom Brady lose his two Super Bowl's to? Eli Manning.

Elite? In a fantasy football league, maybe. We can't win a Super Bowl every year and our offense won't be great every year. Get over it.
There have been 9 NFL MVP Qbs in NFL history that have not won a Superbowl.

By your logic Roethlisberger is infinitely better than Marino.

By your logic Bradshaw is twice as good as Roethlisberger.

If Eli Manning is better than Brady then Rodgers is better than Roethlisberger.

Tebow knocked Roethlisberger out of the playoffs so Tebow is better than Roethlisberger.

Next submoronic argument please.
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