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Old 01-03-2013, 10:59 AM   #11
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Default Re: Cardinals request to interview Todd Haley

Next thing they'll be sayin Whiz back to Pitt.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:59 AM   #12
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this sucks, i thought the offense was on the right track until ben got hurt, i felt that another offseason working with the same system would have gotten the O to click. goddamn cardinals
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:06 AM   #13
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I want Haley to stay.... I've seen Haley run offenses... he did it for a very untalented KC team and out coached a vastly more talented Mike Tomlin led steeler team. Even this season when our offense was healthy we looked pretty good. It wasnt' until the injuries and turnovers started that we could no longer score points. Facts are facts...when Ben returned from injury our offense imploded. We looked significantly better with Batch at QB...then with Ben the last few weeks.

I also think the plan going into the season was for us to run the ball. That was Mike Tomlin's plan as much as it was Haley's plan. When the running game failed...the offense struggled...then ultimately imploded when Ben imploded. The fumbling didn't help matters. So it would be really premature to say Haley isn't a capable coach.

Hopefully next season Ben gets behind Haley's system and our O-line stays healthy..... If those two things happen I see no reason why we don't go deep in the playoffs. If we can run the ball... those deep passing plays that Ben so badly wants to run will open up. It takes time to build the efficient style offense that Haley wants to bring. Ben fought it from the start... maybe this off season he'll see the light?
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:15 AM   #14
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Default Re: Cardinals request to interview Todd Haley

How could it be worse what Haley had done. Half of the passing game were screens last year. Are you kidding me. We don't need Wallace for that piece of ****. Not vertical at all no streaks and long routes with Wallace. Totally unwilling to use no huddle. Our running game was creepy the most of the time and lets be honest we are 8-8 football team with the best statistical defense, a great quaterback and before the year in discussion for having the best Wide Receiving Core of the league. And I am sure only because of Ben this offense looked not that bad that it is with Haley. Some may say Roethlisberger has most of the fault with what happend the last weeks. And in some way he had but the play calling was crap all year just at the end Roethlisberger hadn't enough in the tank to over come it.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:20 AM   #15
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I want Haley to stay.... I've seen Haley run offenses... he did it for a very untalented KC team and out coached a vastly more talented Mike Tomlin led steeler team. Even this season when our offense was healthy we looked pretty good. It wasnt' until the injuries and turnovers started that we could no longer score points. Facts are facts...when Ben returned from injury our offense imploded. We looked significantly better with Batch at QB...then with Ben the last few weeks.

I also think the plan going into the season was for us to run the ball. That was Mike Tomlin's plan as much as it was Haley's plan. When the running game failed...the offense struggled...then ultimately imploded when Ben imploded. The fumbling didn't help matters. So it would be really premature to say Haley isn't a capable coach.

Hopefully next season Ben gets behind Haley's system and our O-line stays healthy..... If those two things happen I see no reason why we don't go deep in the playoffs. If we can run the ball... those deep passing plays that Ben so badly wants to run will open up. It takes time to build the efficient style offense that Haley wants to bring. Ben fought it from the start... maybe this off season he'll see the light?
Or maybe they should realize they aren't a team that can pound the ball 40 times a game anymore. Maybe Ben never bought into the system because he was handcuffed until 3rd and long and until the Steelers needed him to bail them out from their own stupidity in the last 2 minutes. Think Brady or Manning would like that if their teams played that same kind of outdated style?

This offense was Marty ball. It was designed to play close to the vest and hope the defense kept the team in it long enough for Ben to pull a miracle out of his ass in the end.
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Send Haley get Norv.
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Unless the Steelers are sure that they can get Norv Turner, I hope Haley stays. He's a good OC.
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8-8

No playoffs

One of the worst-ranked offenses in the league


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Ben was using 10 different targets before he went down - not Marty ball - the reference doesn't apply to the scheme.

Just because you saw a couple games of it used when Ben was out and a few series upon his return doesn't make it an absolute label.

A lot of people would say Cowher's team played this Marty ball, with the only difference being that in the 90s, they weren't afraid to take chances, go down field, and use some trickery in critical situations
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:29 AM   #20
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8-8

No playoffs

One of the worst-ranked offenses in the league


Yeah, no thanks
The defense is responsible for a couple losses
Turnovers are responsible for a couple losses
Injuries are responsible for a drop off in talent, mistakes, and probably some losses.

I'd say lack of execution played a big part as well. You can't lay an entire record on 1 guy. 6-3 was looking pretty good to a lot of people. Separate the OC hate with the reality of the situation. Put that situation on any team, and you might get one winning season in spite of it - this record is a result of poor execution and injuries. The standard is the standard so long as you aren't decimated.
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