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Old 01-03-2013, 12:08 PM   #41
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Default Re: Cardinals request to interview Todd Haley

This is nuts to me. Ever since Art II whispered in Tomin's ear to fire Arians, it seems like Tomlin is under higher and higher scrutiny with his staff. I love Tomlin, believe he is GREAT under these circumstances. John Clayton stated on ESPN that if Haley goes to Arizona, then Whiz could very well be our new O.C. Crazy. I'm just going to sit back and watch.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:15 PM   #42
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There must've been some sort of healing moment between Whiz and the Rooneys if that is going to happen.

A move like that would probably also be the end of Ben in Pittsburgh. It's no secret that Ben and Whiz were not big fans of each other.

Also anyone noticing the theme through out Ben's career? No one other then Bruce Arians ever liked the guy. His teammates especially. Now they say all the right things...but I'm not buying it. This offense also lacks "team first" players. Bettis and Ward were prime examples of team first players that were true leaders. Ben has tried to fill that roll...but when he cant' even get on board with the coaches for the sake of the team....it falls on deaf ears.
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This is nuts to me. Ever since Art II whispered in Tomin's ear to fire Arians, it seems like Tomlin is under higher and higher scrutiny with his staff. I love Tomlin, believe he is GREAT under these circumstances. John Clayton stated on ESPN that if Haley goes to Arizona, then Whiz could very well be our new O.C. Crazy. I'm just going to sit back and watch.


Whisenhunt is reportedly being pursued - and it could happen very quickly - by the Buffalo Bills for their HC position.
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its just permission to interview. Chill. He's not hired yet.
exactly what I'm thinking. Anything can happen, and it's fun to think about it, but I wouldn't read anything into it.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:36 PM   #45
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Brady and Manning don't want to listen to anyone?

Fine - I can see where someone would think that. Manning calling the shots (proven capability) Brady yelling at his O.C., standing at the line, calling the shots, winning despite the OC in place.

Ben hasn't shown the capability or given reason for trust. He is smart - I didn't say that - just hasn't proven capable to be willing to do what it takes.

I want Ben. I don't want anyone else. He is fully capable if he gives in a little. But he is one stubborn son of a gun that I think doesn't know best. The "He's a 2x SB winning QB with another appearance" is fine and all - if you want to rest on that. I don't.

that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:39 PM   #46
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If he gets this job the front office needs to be on the phone with Norv Turner fast. He may not have been the best head coach, but i think he is a very good O-coordinator??? Whats your thoughts??
Many teams will be all over Norv. Jets, Cowboys, every other team who cleared out their FO, has a young QB and/or struggled offensively last year (Raiders, Jags, Cards...).

If Haley does leave, the best replacement option may be internal.
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Norv is the sexy pick. I wouldn't mind it at all. Do you think he would rather go somewhere else and start over with someone younger - or chomp more at the chance to have someone like Ben to work with?
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Norv is the sexy pick. I wouldn't mind it at all. Do you think he would rather go somewhere else and start over with someone younger - or chomp more at the chance to have someone like Ben to work with?
Good point about talent. Talent wise, it's hard to beat what 'Burgh has to offer.

Still, we're counting chickens here and the money/exposure factor can't be discounted.

Teams like NY and DAL (and maybe even CLE and their new ownership) will be more likely to pony up extra dough to bring in Norv (and Norv came up in DAL, so maybe there's a 'loyalty factor'?).

If Norv wants to win and/or have the most talent, and if Haley does leave, then PIT is surely in the top-3 of his best choices.

If Norv has loyalties elsewhere (DAL/OAK), wants to chase the money/big market (DAL/NYJ) or work with a young team (everyone else), PIT is nowhere near his radar.
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I'd be okay with Whiz back as OC in the event Haley leaves, but I'd really like to see another year of Haley's system.
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Default Re: Cardinals request to interview Todd Haley

It is WAYYYYYYYYY too early to give up on Todd Haley' system.

For starters, even though it suffered from the same broken-azz Oline and lack of running game as under Arians' scheme-- it DID score more points than any of Arian's offenses I believe.

Also, until the injury bug rolled around, until Ben got injured in what appeared to me to be a freak injury, and until we lost our entire secondary-- we were starting to roll at 6-3, Ben was having a career season, and the offense was starting to look like something respectable.

Then, Ben has a baby, gets hurt, and never returns to form. All 4 CBs get hurt. We lose 3 of 5 starters on the Oline. The RBs forget how to hold the ball--- and it is time to fire Haley?

Who, pray tell, are we going to replace him with?

EVERYBODY is looking to send Norv Turner an offer. Methinks the Jets will probably make another dumb move and break the bank to get Norv-- they are that desperate.
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