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Old 01-03-2013, 10:22 AM   #51
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BINGO! Been saying this for awhile. This is the reason Haley was brought here. To teach Ben to take what the defence is giving you. Can't keep drafting OL with our top picks every year.
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I don't think many people view Ben as good as Brady or Peyton or Rodgers here. But he is a top 5-6 QB in the league. I consider that an elite QB.
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:27 PM   #53
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Injuries don't cause pick sixes? What happens if you have an open receiver but due to an injury, you just don't have the strength to get the ball to him thus it gets underthrown and picked off? People are reaching for any reason to be pissed off and of course, they're finding reasons to pick on Ben and Tomlin.
As usual-- your posts are some of the most on-target and sane of all the postings and ramblings I read on here.

Both of those two pick-6's don't happen if the ball had a few more MPH behind it. The ball got there too slow, giving the defender time to make a play on it.

Also, would help if Wallace spent more effort to come back for the ball on a curl route than the defender does.
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As usual-- your posts are some of the most on-target and sane of all the postings and ramblings I read on here.

Both of those two pick-6's don't happen if the ball had a few more MPH behind it. The ball got there too slow, giving the defender time to make a play on it.

Also, would help if Wallace spent more effort to come back for the ball on a curl route than the defender does.
Against the Cowboys wallace ran an out and had no chance to stop mid stride then do a 180 and go catch the ball
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As usual-- your posts are some of the most on-target and sane of all the postings and ramblings I read on here.

Both of those two pick-6's don't happen if the ball had a few more MPH behind it. The ball got there too slow, giving the defender time to make a play on it.

Also, would help if Wallace spent more effort to come back for the ball on a curl route than the defender does.
He thru a pic 6 in Denver to ice the game. He was perfectly healthy then. What's up with that? I seen Ben throw a few of those out routes that resulted in pics. Maybe he just can't make that throw successfully, consistently.
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Ben's eyes tend to sell-out those routes
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Besides the first post I did not wade through all the others so what I am posting does not reflect any response to any ones previous posts. I am sure they range from Ben is making excuses again, to Ben defenders saying it only proves this was not the norm. IMO it means nothing. Ben was injured pretty bad, (at least according to Doctors, almost life threatening) I assume with the Drs approval, and Bens say so that he could be back to normal. Who am I or anyone else to say he wasn't, as an NFL player I am sure nearly everyone has played through injuries at times. Example Troy while back after multiple game injuries did not appear to be 100% but after a couple to three games he was more like his self.

One final thought I do believe that Tomlin has to grow some balls and from time to time pull his players in. Ben should not of played last year against the 49ers (easier call in hindsight for sure though) and perhaps he should not of played as early as he did this year. I know as a former player of many sports I prided myself of playing hurt and "rubbing dirt on it and continue". Any player worth his salt will do the same, Coaches especially in light of the new policies of the NFL regarding concussions and other injuries have to make judgments that will likely not endear them to players or fans, and it may just cost them a game here or there. If that is the case then really "What else is new?"
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to our New England fella - I'd have to disagree with you on Ben's toughness.

Ben's toughness is what kept the offense alive enough to still make some difference to compete over his career - he won a SB with one of the worst O-lines ever. I don't think you want your man Brady anywhere behind the O-lines Pittsburgh fans have had to endure

Have you had to witness a bloody and bashed Brady limp, gush blood from his face, and still pull a victory out of his ass in the waning moments up against an elite Ravens D in M&T, with the division on the line?

Have you had to witness Brady being the only option to even compete @ San Francisco with one leg?

I consider your man Brady the best in the business. However, toughest QB to ever take the field in modern football? That goes to Ben, hands down IMO.

I will agree with you on Ben talking way too much though. I wish he would be more like Brady in that regard. I do think with Ben, as far as talking about his injuries - I think its a way for him to psyche himself up when he's in pain - just my two cents.

By the way - good luck in the playoffs. I hope you guys don't have to go to Denver for your team's sake.
I agree with you man and, our NE friend is dreaming if he thinks that Brady would have the same success if he played behind the steeler oline. Brady would be in the fetal position or on the sideline throwing a temper rant when things don't go his way. Sure their are times when Ben needs to throw the ball away or just take the check down. Easy for us to say that and, back to our NE friend Ben does not have 6-8 seconds like Brady has most of the time. Give Ben that type of protection and, the sky is the limit.
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I agree with you man and, our NE friend is dreaming if he thinks that Brady would have the same success if he played behind the steeler oline. Brady would be in the fetal position or on the sideline throwing a temper rant when things don't go his way. Sure their are times when Ben needs to throw the ball away or just take the check down. Easy for us to say that and, back to our NE friend Ben does not have 6-8 seconds like Brady has most of the time. Give Ben that type of protection and, the sky is the limit.
If Brady played behind our OL, he wouldn't be in the fetal position , he would be in a coffin.
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I agree with you man and, our NE friend is dreaming if he thinks that Brady would have the same success if he played behind the steeler oline. Brady would be in the fetal position or on the sideline throwing a temper rant when things don't go his way. Sure their are times when Ben needs to throw the ball away or just take the check down. Easy for us to say that and, back to our NE friend Ben does not have 6-8 seconds like Brady has most of the time. Give Ben that type of protection and, the sky is the limit.
Exactly. Give Ben that kind of time though - and he might just start wishing for 14 seconds (sorry - I had to bait the Ben defenders)

Seriously though Ben with good O-line = working on 4th SB - I whole heartedly believe that
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