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Old 01-03-2013, 07:08 PM   #11
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Default Re: Free Agency should have a stigma attached to it.

This is a dumb post. Stop agreeing with it.

Patriots have had more significant FA than any other team I can think of and they traded for Welker and Moss.

Not to mention acquiring Albert Haynesworth!!!

Torry Holt, Ochocinco, Joey Galloway, Junior Seau, Joseph Addai, Mike Vrabel, Bryan Cox, Roman Phifer, Victor Green, Rodney Harrison, Ty Poole, Rosevelt Colvin, Donte Stallworth, Adalius Thomas, Tory James, Shawn Spring, Rob Ninkovich, Leigh Bodden, Fred Taylor, Shaun Ellis, Brandon Lloyd.

There are some LEGENDARY players in there. Many of them past their prime but some weren't. In my mind the Patriots are the most active FA team in the NFL outside of the Redskins and Cowboys.

I'm not sure how you can pull the "Patriot Way" card here. You have had as many high-profile free agents as anyone.

Ryan Clark, Jerome Bettis, James Farrior, Kimo von Oelhoffen, Kevin Greene etc. have been vital to the Steelers success over the years. It is hard enough to win without trying to win a certain way.

Get off your soapboxes you idiots!
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:15 PM   #12
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There is nothing inherently wrong with picking up a Free Agent. We've hit of few really good ones over the years that didn't break the bank, like the Bus, James Farrior, Jeff Hartings to name a few. What is wrong with FA is $100 Million for loads like Albert Haynesworth.
I believe we traded for Bettis. I agree with you though, no need to get the huge money star when you get multiple players for the same amount of money.
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This is a dumb post. Stop agreeing with it.

Patriots have had more significant FA than any other team I can think of and they traded for Welker and Moss.

Not to mention acquiring Albert Haynesworth!!!

Torry Holt, Ochocinco, Joey Galloway, Junior Seau, Joseph Addai, Mike Vrabel, Bryan Cox, Roman Phifer, Victor Green, Rodney Harrison, Ty Poole, Rosevelt Colvin, Donte Stallworth, Adalius Thomas, Tory James, Shawn Spring, Rob Ninkovich, Leigh Bodden, Fred Taylor, Shaun Ellis, Brandon Lloyd.

There are some LEGENDARY players in there. Many of them past their prime but some weren't. In my mind the Patriots are the most active FA team in the NFL outside of the Redskins and Cowboys.

I'm not sure how you can pull the "Patriot Way" card here. You have had as many high-profile free agents as anyone.

Ryan Clark, Jerome Bettis, James Farrior, Kimo von Oelhoffen, Kevin Greene etc. have been vital to the Steelers success over the years. It is hard enough to win without trying to win a certain way.

Get off your soapboxes you idiots!
I don't follow the Pats. I was talking about the Steelers, who are known for building from within more than acquiring free agents to find success. I think that's something to be proud of as a Steelers fan.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:12 PM   #14
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I don't follow the Pats. I was talking about the Steelers, who are known for building from within more than acquiring free agents to find success. I think that's something to be proud of as a Steelers fan.
I am just as proud of Ryan Clark as I am of Troy Polamalu.

I personally wish the Steelers made more of a splash in free agency.
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He did mention that they aren't doing the FA thing as much - I agree with you - seems like maybe Snyder is starting to get it just a little - and VOILA - division and home playoff game! Imagine that!
You know when I think about it hard. I think the turning point for Snyder had to be the Haynesworth debacle. Since then, I believe he's hired an actual GM.
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The Steelers and Patriots are good teams who have developed stars and bought some.

There, shut up already.
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I don't follow the Pats. I was talking about the Steelers, who are known for building from within more than acquiring free agents to find success. I think that's something to be proud of as a Steelers fan.
Yes being cheap and complacent is something to be proud of.
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cheap? The Steelers pay money to players they want to invest in. For example, Roethlisberger, Harrison, Polamalu. I don't know why they don't invest in more big name Free Agents. I've always assumed that they don't want to risk paying big money to somebody who is only motivated to get that one big payday, and be worthless. That's not being cheap, they just don't use their money foolishly.

complacent? I'm not sure what you mean by that. I think this team is always looking to get better (especially after an 8-8 season).
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cheap? The Steelers pay money to players they want to invest in. For example, Roethlisberger, Harrison, Polamalu. I don't know why they don't invest in more big name Free Agents. I've always assumed that they don't want to risk paying big money to somebody who is only motivated to get that one big payday, and be worthless. That's not being cheap, they just don't use their money foolishly.

complacent? I'm not sure what you mean by that. I think this team is always looking to get better (especially after an 8-8 season).
Maybe cheap might not be the right word.
In the Donahoe years the Steelers never resigned anybody. Now they have gone to the other extreme and resign too many mediocre players because they "know the system" supposedly. Trai Essex for example, or Lawrence Timmons, Lamar Woodley. Then they refuse to acknowledge that age is a factor with unrealistic expectations. And too complacent in free agency. The Front Office tries to act like they're drafts will provide them with the same quality of players as a couple free agents here and there.
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