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Old 01-09-2013, 06:38 PM   #21
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Yea, think we're on the same page. BUT, as I began with, if he goes out big, he can overcome, IMO. Look at Ray Lewis. He WAS the MVP, but Disney wanted nothing to do with a killer that walked free. He kept having big seasons, now the media is loving him lots. So yea, if Ben keeps clean, and overcomes Eli, he's in the clear, IMO.
I'll just tell BB to win THREE more SuperBowls, so that it's not even a question.
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lololol - seemed like a good place for another Marty Ball debate:
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:43 PM   #23
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lololol - seemed like a good place for another Marty Ball debate:
We can keep the Uncle Charley's if you like. I like their smoked bacon.
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Great read and really puts the player and the person into perspective. It really is a turning point in his career. He either has 1-2 more big things he'll accomplish as a Steeler or, his best accomplishments are behind him. Either way, he's a HOF - which echelon of HOFers will he fall into? Time will tell. He'll be one of my favorite Steelers of all time no matter what.
If he puts up 2-3 more above average years he'll be HOF, but not first ballot. Another ring or some gaudy stats and he'll be first ballot IMO.
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If he puts up 2-3 more above average years he'll be HOF, but not first ballot. Another ring or some gaudy stats and he'll be first ballot IMO.
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Career and legacy crossroads.
If he wins a 3rd Lombardi he's a cinch 1st ballot HOF'er.
If he never wins another, 2 wins with his baggage off the field might not be enough.
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I think that is a fair assessment. He doesnt have the huge stats as you point out and in the 3 super bowl's he played.....2 of them he wasnt that great at.

I still think he should be around for the next 5 seasons or more, but the team window on getting to another Super Bowl is closing. All the great supporting cast is getting old and the young guys arent that special so far.
It doesn't matter that he wasn't that great IN two of the Super Bowls. Without him and his play in the regular season and playoffs....the Steelers wouldn't have even sniffed those Super Bowls. Big Ben is the man. He is elite. He is the central piece to every Super Bowl trip in his era and his success will determine whether we get another one or not. FACT.
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