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Old 01-13-2013, 06:45 PM   #11
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Default Re: 2013 Draft: Maybe it needs to be about offense instead of defense

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our defense is a helluva lot older than our offense though...
But the offense might be more shorthanded than the defense.

It's a hard choice, but when you look at the direction the NFL is going, especially in these playoffs, going with offense is the better choice.
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Old 01-13-2013, 06:48 PM   #12
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our defense is a helluva lot older than our offense though...
Yeah but we have backups in place to take over.
Hampton-McClendon
Harrison-worilds
Keisel- heyward
Foote-although they are question marks there is spence and slyvester
Troy Clark-golden?

They only real concern is safety and possibly ilb.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:00 PM   #13
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our defense is a helluva lot older than our offense though...
I hear you on that.

But... to play devil's advocate.

McClendon, Hood, Heyward : young, young, young.

Harrison, Timmons, Spence, Woodley: OLD, young, young, fat.

Ike, Keenan, Cortez: OLD, young, young.

Troy, Clark: OLD, OLD

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Harrison, Troy, & Clark need replacements. Ike's replacement is either Keenan or Cortez, with a nickel-back needed (R4-7). Spence and McClendon are question marks, but my hopes are high (although, I'd still like an ILB drafted high, to compete with Spence).

Thus... if a S and an OLB are drafted, I'd concede the ILB pick, in favor of an offensive player.
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I hear you on that.

But... to play devil's advocate.

McClendon, Hood, Heyward : young, young, young.

Harrison, Timmons, Spence, Woodley: OLD, young, young, fat.

Ike, Keenan, Cortez: OLD, young, young.

Troy, Clark: OLD, OLD

SUMMATION:
Harrison, Troy, & Clark need replacements. Ike's replacement is either Keenan or Cortez, with a nickel-back needed (R4-7). Spence and McClendon are question marks, but my hopes are high (although, I'd still like an ILB drafted high, to compete with Spence).

Thus... if a S and an OLB are drafted, I'd concede the ILB pick, in favor of an offensive player.
Jason worlids is Harrison replacement
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Harrison, Timmons, Spence, Woodley: OLD, young, young, fat.
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Q: You have wanted a R2 WR. Are you now thinking/suggesting swapping that pick for a RB?
It depends on who's available. If Bernard is on the board then we have to take him, but that's the only scenario in which we don't take a WR in the second round.
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Jason worlids is Harrison replacement
Admittedly, Worilds impressed me as a rookie. He even had six sacks this past season, in limited duty. I get where you are coming from: "Go with Worilds, and use a draft pick elsewhere." I get it.

BUT... he just doesn't seem like he has "it."

The very first time that I saw Greg Lloyd, I was like, "Who the eff is that!?!"

The first pre-season that I saw Joey Porter, I was like, "We got a GOOD one!!!"

Even as a back-up, when I saw James Haarison,, I was like, "This guy needs to play more!!!"

With Worilds (& Carter)... I've liked what I've seen, but I also liked Clark Haggans.

Make sense?
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Default Re: 2013 Draft: Maybe it needs to be about offense instead of defense

The Steelers need a WR who's not just tall. Mike Wallace is tall, but he's a wimp too. They need a tough WR with a build like Calvin Johnson, Vincent Jackson or Torrey Smith, who can not only blow the top off a defense, but also make plays in traffic and fight for the ball for a change.
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Anybody notice how the seemingly "great" defenses are giving up a lot of points in the playoffs? We've seen final scores of 38-35, 45-31, and 30-28. Wallace and Mendenhall are likely gone, as are Starks and at least one of Colon or Foster. Heath Miller may not be ready for the start of the 2013 season. For a team that needs more from its offense, that unit won't exactly be put into a position to succeed next season if this upcoming draft is mostly about defense.

I won't be disappointed if the Steelers draft a pass-rushing OLB in one of the higher rounds, but this team will desperately need at least a TE, RB, a tall WR, and maybe even another OG above any other defensive position. Resigning Plax also needs to be an option for depth.
Defense has never been the winner in football. Great defense allows to be competitive but great offense indeed always wins. The Steelers issue now is not defense or offense but inability to execute on offense and inability to allow defense to do its thing. It all goes back to Tomlin and Haley, Haley should be fired now, and Tomlin cannot manage a game. So either get a game manager for Tomlin or boot en both
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Defense has never been the winner in football. Great defense allows to be competitive but great offense indeed always wins. The Steelers issue now is not defense or offense but inability to execute on offense and inability to allow defense to do its thing. It all goes back to Tomlin and Haley, Haley should be fired now, and Tomlin cannot manage a game. So either get a game manager for Tomlin or boot en both
Everybody hyped up the Steelers' defense as being #1 in yards, but as we saw from this season it wasn't enough. The defenses in the playoffs may have given up a lot of yards and points, but they also made splash plays. They got sacks and forced turnovers. Changed field position. They played aggressive. The Steelers defense didn't do that until it was too late. You can't expect the offense to march up the field 80-90 yards on every drive and come away with points.

Look at the last game against Cleveland - the defense gave up a lot of yards, but they forced four turnovers and held the Browns to only 10 points. Isn't that what's most important at the end? Yes I know it's Cleveland and they stink, but the point is it doesn't matter if you're giving up a lot of yards if you're taking the ball away and finding ways to keep the other team off the scoreboard.
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