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Old 01-15-2013, 02:09 PM   #21
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I'm sure he would allow it after training. Remember, the military can kick the dumb asses out. Wal-Mart can't, it's their whole customer base.
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We've had that discussion. I'll tell you what I want - a gaudy, blue, Mossberg Rhythm 930
I musta forgot - it holds 12+1 - way over the limit there - so you want to be an assault weapon owner too

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I'm fine renting it. Just learning.
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Obama Plans 19 Executive Orders on Gun Control

President Barack Obama plans this week to present 19 separate executive orders on gun control and will press for comprehensive legislation to expand gun-purchase background checks, lawmakers made privy to the president’s agenda said Monday, according to the New York Times.

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Got one of those Hitler images for George H.W. Bush as well?

Issuing an executive order is not a new idea. It has been used many times before.

In 1989, then-President George H.W. Bush halted the importation of some semi-automatic firearms that could be considered “assault weapons” under existing legal authority provided by the 1968 Gun Control Act, under the determination that they were not “particularly suitable for or readily adapting to sporting purposes.”

Bush used his executive powers after a career criminal killed five kids and wounded 29 others with an AK-47 assault rifle on Jan. 27, 1989, in California.


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Wrong Bush - this was Bush The First - the fact I cited a Fox News story should tell you something about this not being an unprecedented exercise of executive power by the Kenyan Socialist

But no worries - the home office of crazy will make sure nothing happens

Texas Proposal: JAIL Any Federal Officials Trying to Enforce New Gun Restrictions in the State

A Texas lawmaker says he plans to file the Firearms Protection Act, which would make any federal laws that may be passed by Congress or imposed by Presidential order which would ban or restrict ownership of semi-automatic firearms or limit the size of gun magazines illegal in the state, 1200 WOAI news reports.

Republican Rep. Steve Toth says his measure also calls for felony criminal charges to be filed against any federal official who tries to enforce the rule in the state.

"If a federal official comes into the state of Texas to enforce the federal executive order, that person is subject to criminal prosecution," Toth told 1200 WOAI's Joe Pags Tuesday. He says his bill would make attempting to enforce a federal gun ban in Texas punishable by a $50,000 fine and up to five years in prison....

Toth concedes that he would welcome a legal fight over his proposals.

"At some point there needs to be a showdown between the states and the federal government over the Supremacy Clause," he said.

The Supremacy Clause is the portion of the Constitution which declares that federal laws and statutes are 'the supreme law of the land.'

"It is our responsibility to push back when those laws are infringed by King Obama," Toth said


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Texas Rep. Stockman threatens to impeach Obama over gun control

In a statement released Monday, Stockman said: "The White House's recent announcement they will use executive orders and executive actions to infringe on our constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms is an unconstitutional and unconscionable attack on the very founding principles of this republic."...

In his statement, Stockman said he "will seek to thwart this action by any means necessary, including but not limited to eliminating funding for implementation, defunding the White House, and even filing articles of impeachment."


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Cuomo Signs Gun Legislation Into Law


Sweeping Limits on Guns Become Law in New York

ALBANY — Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo signed into law on Tuesday a sweeping package of gun control measures, significantly expanding a ban on assault weapons and making New York the first state to change its laws in response to the mass shooting at a Connecticut elementary school.

Mr. Cuomo signed the bill less than an hour after the State Assembly approved the legislation on a 104-to-43 vote. The State Senate approved the measure, 43 to 18, on Monday night.

The expanded ban on assault weapons broadens the definition of such weapons, banning semiautomatic pistols and rifles with detachable magazines and one military-style feature, as well as semiautomatic shotguns with one military-style feature.

New Yorkers who already own such guns can keep them but will be required to register them with the state.

The expanded ban on assault weapons takes effect immediately; New Yorkers who already own guns that are banned under the new law can keep them, but will have to register them with the state within a year. Other provisions of the bill take effect at later dates.

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To be honest, what Bush Sr. did in this regard is not of much importance to me. I was 9 when he passed the EO you mentioned. So not sure why bringing it up is of importance. He's not the president anymore, and what he did shouldn't matter in what we don't want the current president doing.

One or more former presidents doing unconstitutional things does not mean we have to stand for the current president doing unconstitutional things. I didn't like Bush Jr. either, and looking back on the past, I don't like what Bush Sr. did, or Reagan, or Nixon, or Johnson, etc. etc. That doesn't mean I'm not going to voice my disdain for the current administration and attempt to fight back against unconstitutional laws.

Keep in mind, there are actually people alive who've only seen one or two presidents in their voting age life lol.


My hope is this bill doesn't pass Congress and eventually dies. It'll have a tough time getting through them.
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To be honest, what Bush Sr. did in this regard is not of much importance to me. I was 9 when he passed the EO you mentioned. So not sure why bringing it up is of importance. He's not the president anymore, and what he did shouldn't matter in what we don't want the current president doing.

One or more former presidents doing unconstitutional things does not mean we have to stand for the current president doing unconstitutional things. I didn't like Bush Jr. either, and looking back on the past, I don't like what Bush Sr. did, or Reagan, or Nixon, or Johnson, etc. etc. That doesn't mean I'm not going to voice my disdain for the current administration and attempt to fight back against unconstitutional laws.

Keep in mind, there are actually people alive who've only seen one or two presidents in their voting age life lol.


My hope is this bill doesn't pass Congress and eventually dies. It'll have a tough time getting through them.
My point was that in all probability what Bush The Elder was not unconstitutional
(what is your basis for contending it was?) and the constant bleating about Obama engaging in unprecedented exercises of executive authority is unsound

Unless of course the rationale is that everything Obama does with which someone disagrees is not just wrong but unconstitutional and therefore if prior Presidents took similar actions those actions also were unconstitutional even though no one has raised such a contention until now
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In other words two wrongs make a right?
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