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Old 01-15-2013, 10:10 PM   #11
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Dion Jordan is going to have surgery on a torn labrum, which may very well cause him to slide down draft boards just like Heath Miller did when he had hernia surgery before the draft.
I hope we don't get Jordan more of a 4-3 guy
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:22 PM   #12
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If we're picking at number 1 and 17, I go Luke Joeckel. Then, at 17, I go Dion Jordan.

Joeckel - ??? - Pouncey - DeCastro - Adams
Interesting.

For me, it is not simple. I went through each top-rated player, and via deductive reasoning, eliminated until I was left with my answer.

Dee Milliner: While he is the top-rated CB in this draft, he would be the second (or third) CB in some drafts. He's good, but not Champ Bailey good. Plus, Cortez & Keenan are the future. Not needed. NO.

Jarvis Jones/DeMontre Moore: This is where I had to stop for a second. An elite pass-rusher is key to the 3-4. But, with that said, at 17, there would still be a ton of OLB on the board. Ergo, playing the odds, the two pass-rushers are passed upon. NO.

Luke Joeckel: Here is where I had the most trouble. If he played LT, then the Steelers are set for a while:
Joeckel - Gilbert - Pouncey - DD - Adams
BUT, is Joeckel of the Joe Adams & Orlando Pace ilk... no. Thus, I'd rather fill another need, and see if Gilbert pans out at LT. A hesitant NO.

Star Lotulelei: I know that I'm going to hear it about this one, but Star is a once every five years type of NT. Sure, McClendon could be the future and Ta'amu might not go to jail, but while I am hesitant to take a NT at 17 (I do not see them as being anything special), Star is in a class of his own. The 3-4 is predicated on the NT. Casey Hampton came in and turned a defense that was struggling into the best defense in the league; Star would do exactly the same. Ergo, he is my pick at #1.

...followed by Matt Elam at 17.
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I hope we don't get Jordan more of a 4-3 guy
Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon

Height: 6-7. Weight: 243.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Projected Round (2013): 1-2.

12/22/12: Jordan has 44 tackles, 10.5 tackles for a loss, three forced fumbles and five sacks so far in 2012.

His pass-rush opportunities have been hurt because he is often dropped back into pass coverage. Jordan plays well in space and would definitely fit best as a 3-4 outside linebacker in the NFL.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2013OLB3-4.php
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I'm going to read your post tomorrow Teegre and post something intelligent I swear, but I'm too tired.

For the guy that said why would I not take Jarvis Jones - because of the health issues. Luke Joeckel is the best Tackle prospect in a decade and right now, with an OLinemen going down every other game it wouldn't hurt to have the best Guard and Tackle prospects in a decade on the same offensive line. Gilbert could play RT and Adams could slide into LG if needed.

You're quick to complain about Dion but forget that Jarvis is dealing with his own serious health issues that will cause him to fall out of the top 5.

Also, thanks Hawaii for posting the scouting report on Dion so I didn't have to.
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I know it sounds nuts but our #1 pick should be the best running back available. We can draft all the linemen we wan't then watch them roll an ankle in preseason resulting in us basically not drafting anyone.
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You're quick to complain about Dion but forget that Jarvis is dealing with his own serious health issues that will cause him to fall out of the top 5.
Was this directed at me???

I've liked Jordan, as well. Mingo, Jordan, Vaccaro, and Elam at 17 is my list...
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Was this directed at me???

I've liked Jordan, as well. Mingo, Jordan, Vaccaro, and Elam at 17 is my list...
Oh no, some guy was taking issue with the Dion Jordan pick I have. I really shouldn't post when I'm tired, things just don't make sense.

My bad for the mix up!
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Oh no, some guy was taking issue with the Dion Jordan pick I have. I really shouldn't post when I'm tired, things just don't make sense.

My bad for the mix up!
I've been dealing with a toddler with the flu... so, I'm only half-awake while reading.

I look forward to your post tomorrow.
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Elam!!! I know it's not our most pressing need but that kid is tough! If we somehow manage to get Lacy in the 2nd round and Swope in the 3rd would be huge! This is a deep Safety draft so we could go OLB in the 1st and find our S later. Just thoughts.
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Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon

Height: 6-7. Weight: 243.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Projected Round (2013): 1-2.

12/22/12: Jordan has 44 tackles, 10.5 tackles for a loss, three forced fumbles and five sacks so far in 2012.

His pass-rush opportunities have been hurt because he is often dropped back into pass coverage. Jordan plays well in space and would definitely fit best as a 3-4 outside linebacker in the NFL.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2013OLB3-4.php
This is from steelers depot a highly respectable and knowledgeable site for the steelers


In the long run I feel most teams will view him more as a 4-3 defensive end than an outside linebacker prospect. In my tape study I have a hard time envisioning him playing the 3, 4 or the 5 technique in a 3-4 defense. In my opinion he would best fit a team that uses a wide-9 defensive front.

Heres the whole article http://www.steelersdepot.com/2013/01...jordan-oregon/
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