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Old 01-17-2013, 11:43 AM   #11
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paying the woodendong 60 million bucks for 4 sacks
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:00 PM   #12
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paying the woodendong 60 million bucks for 4 sacks
Woodley had a bad season, but so did a lot of other guys. I agree thats a lot of money but hes a guy we can count on being good for a few years still
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LaMarr's got some restructuring to do
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Our capologist Ian Whetstone says team could restructure Woodley for max savings of $6.2M.

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Old 01-17-2013, 12:06 PM   #14
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Giving lucrative contracts to Lawrence Timmons, LaMarr Woodley, Ben Roethlisberger, etc.. Restructuring deals for many players to get under the cap in recent years has come back to bite the Steelers now, leaving them in salary cap hell.
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my source says a Ben restructure could save $7.2M max. Timmons another target at $5.4M max.

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Old 01-17-2013, 02:26 PM   #15
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he'll gladly do it.
give him some more upfront money so he can take another season off.

better yet, cut him and try to resign him for the amount that he actually produced at.
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he'll gladly do it.
give him some more upfront money so he can take another season off.

better yet, cut him and try to resign him for the amount that he actually produced at.
2011: 8 games, 9 sacks, 36 tackles.

That ***** should work through his hamstring injury and produce better results! Make him play injured! But, don't knock Troy and his inability to produce and often times was a liability on defense when he was out there. Or, don't knock Keisel or Harrison for their high cap hits and again, producing next to nothing.
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2011: 8 games, 9 sacks, 36 tackles.

That ***** should work through his hamstring injury and produce better results! Make him play injured! But, don't knock Troy and his inability to produce and often times was a liability on defense when he was out there. Or, don't knock Keisel or Harrison for their high cap hits and again, producing next to nothing.
the difference is in the commitment - his own coach said as much
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In a nutshell, we practically have gone all-in on this teams last horrah at a championship. We knew what we had with guys like Hampton, Keisel, Troy, Woodley and other veterans serving on the team. We got there in '10 and restructured a good deal for '11 but now that going all in on such deals are rearing it's ugly face in 2012 with mediocre results, changes are going to be made.
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In a nutshell, we practically have gone all-in on this teams last horrah at a championship. We knew what we had with guys like Hampton, Keisel, Troy, Woodley and other veterans serving on the team. We got there in '10 and restructured a good deal for '11 but now that going all in on such deals are rearing it's ugly face in 2012 with mediocre results, changes are going to be made.
XLV was really the blown chance - too bad GB decided to have its coming out party - and even still, 1 less mistake and we're talking Lombardi #8 instead.

I really want to see someone like Troy get another ring - same for Ben - they deserve to be mentioned up there with the greats at their positions and especially because of how unique they are at their position and the unorthodox ways they got their championships
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yet....it amazes me how much i'm STILL seeing "restructure" being thrown about on this board.

As for the big contracts - look at all that elite Brinks money we threw around - much of it coming at nearly the same time.
Ben - Troy - Harrison - Woodley - Timmons - Just those contracts alone are cringe-inducing when you think about it.
I still don't know how teams like the Patriots keep coming in way under the cap and have all this wiggle room to do anything they damn well feel like doing. We're not even in the same league as putting teams/players/money together like they do.
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