Can someone tell me how we ended up in this cap hell situation?

[sloppyjoe]

Originally Posted by SteelersCanada

2011: 8 games, 9 sacks, 36 tackles.

That ***** should work through his hamstring injury and produce better results! Make him play injured! But, don't knock Troy and his inability to produce and often times was a liability on defense when he was out there. Or, don't knock Keisel or Harrison for their high cap hits and again, producing next to nothing.

im all for cutting troy and harrisons lame asses also. difference is that woodley is soft and decided that once he got the big payday he would play whenever he felt like it.

[steelfury02]

Originally Posted by TRH

yet....it amazes me how much i'm STILL seeing "restructure" being thrown about on this board.

As for the big contracts - look at all that elite Brinks money we threw around - much of it coming at nearly the same time.
Ben - Troy - Harrison - Woodley - Timmons - Just those contracts alone are cringe-inducing when you think about it.
I still don't know how teams like the Patriots keep coming in way under the cap and have all this wiggle room to do anything they damn well feel like doing. We're not even in the same league as putting teams/players/money together like they do.

the names on the back of most of those jerseys haven't won 2 SBs and on the verge of possibly winning a 3rd - even though it just ended up being an appearance

[Millers the sh!t]

Because everyone on the board thinks WE have the brightest FO, GM, CM in the league that never has or never will do wrong and its not looking quite true in these past few Years.

[Millers the sh!t]

I know Harrison is a big cap hit, but he was also one of the best on defense. He started playing like an animal more and more every week. I'd keep him for another year if he's healthy 2 mote years. Woodley a chump.

[steelfury02]

agree on Woodley - when you're getting outperformed by a guy who is that long in the tooth and is considering to be underperforming because of an injury - you're not doing enough

[SteelersCanada]

Originally Posted by sloppyjoe

im all for cutting troy and harrisons lame asses also. difference is that woodley is soft and decided that once he got the big payday he would play whenever he felt like it.

LB LaMarr Woodley signs 6-year deal

August 2011

So, when Woodley had already signed his contract extension, he was putting up record numbers. But, no, he decided when he was going to play. Do you see why this makes absolutely no sense? You're trying to pin him being 'soft' and lazy, but he was actually playing better than he was after he got his extension.

The amount of scapegoating that takes place on these forums is unreal.

He put on weight and got out of shape when he hurt his hamstring - no one is arguing that. He needs to get his ass back into shape and I'm very confident he's going to do so. That being said, to call him lazy and soft is the definition of ignorant.

[teegre]

Originally Posted by Millers the sh!t

I know Harrison is a big cap hit, but he was also one of the best on defense. He started playing like an animal more and more every week. I'd keep him for another year if he's healthy 2 mote years. Woodley a chump.

You do realize that in back-to-back posts, you state that people on this site are dumb for wanting the GM to have signed Harrison to a long-term deal (which is putting them in "cap hell")... and then turn right around and say to keep Harrison "because he is one of the best on defense."

Which is it?

Regardless, Harrison being GREAT is exactly why he was given a long-term deal. That is exactly why Troy was given a big deal. That is exactly why BB was given a huge deal.

It isn't like the GM is signing Will I am GAY to monster deals. It isn't like the GM is re-signing Justin Hartwig. It isn't liek they are throwing money at LaMarr Woodley... oh.

Really though, if the GM had cut Troy in his prime (in order to save money), Steelers fans would have KILLED him!!!

Yes, the contracts were pushed back... and now... some of those "used to be great" players will be cut. It was Ward & Farrior last year... and more WILL be cut this year.

[sloppyjoe]

Originally Posted by SteelersCanada

LB LaMarr Woodley signs 6-year deal

August 2011

So, when Woodley had already signed his contract extension, he was putting up record numbers. But, no, he decided when he was going to play. Do you see why this makes absolutely no sense? You're trying to pin him being 'soft' and lazy, but he was actually playing better than he was after he got his extension.

The amount of scapegoating that takes place on these forums is unreal.

He put on weight and got out of shape when he hurt his hamstring - no one is arguing that. He needs to get his ass back into shape and I'm very confident he's going to do so. That being said, to call him lazy and soft is the definition of ignorant.

woodley played hard thru his rookie contract and was rewarded highly although upset that he didnt getted rreworked during his third year due the the F'ed up cba crap. he comes out hard to live up to the new money deal, plays well, gets hurt. doesnt really work hard to comeback the rest of the year, probably thinking 'they owe me for year #3 when i should have been getting more" takes the rest of the year off. lives large during the off season. steelers come knocking for a restructure. woodley says 'hell ya, gimme more up front money that i dont have to work for'. knowing the steelers cant do a damn thing aboput his contract for a few years, decides to take off the whole year.
now here we are with some 'real' fans wanting to restructure woodley again this year. lamar is sitting at home waiting and hoping for the call to see if he can 'help the team' and coast another couple years. tallk about the definition of ignorant.

[SteelersCanada]

Originally Posted by sloppyjoe

woodley played hard thru his rookie contract and was rewarded highly although upset that he didnt getted rreworked during his third year due the the F'ed up cba crap. he comes out hard to live up to the new money deal, plays well, gets hurt. doesnt really work hard to comeback the rest of the year, probably thinking 'they owe me for year #3 when i should have been getting more" takes the rest of the year off. lives large during the off season. steelers come knocking for a restructure. woodley says 'hell ya, gimme more up front money that i dont have to work for'. knowing the steelers cant do a damn thing aboput his contract for a few years, decides to take off the whole year.
now here we are with some real' fans wanting to restructure woodley again this year. lamar is sitting at home waiting and hoping for the call to see if he can 'help the team' and coast another couple years. tallk about the definition of ignorant.

So, once again, you've failed to provide any facts and are giving assumptions based on exactly ... oh, they're based on conversations you think happened. Ok, gotcha. So, the weight they carry is about the same weight that leprechaun's and unicorn's carry.

The bottom line is, when Woodley was playing healthy, he was living up to the contract we gave him. It doesn't matter what you think the conversation was or what you think the thought process was for Woodley because frankly, how could you possibly know what Woodley was thinking? Man, you have some sweet inside sources. First, it was knowing what Wallace and his agent discussed. Now, it's what Woodley is thinking. Man, you should use these super powers you have to fight crime.

I'm ignorant for dealing in facts and statistics? Gotcha.

[sloppyjoe]

Originally Posted by SteelersCanada

So, once again, you've failed to provide any facts and are giving assumptions based on exactly ... oh, they're based on conversations you think happened. Ok, gotcha. So, the weight they carry is about the same weight that leprechaun's and unicorn's carry.

The bottom line is, when Woodley was playing healthy, he was living up to the contract we gave him. It doesn't matter what you think the conversation was or what you think the thought process was for Woodley because frankly, how could you possibly know what Woodley was thinking? Man, you have some sweet inside sources. First, it was knowing what Wallace and his agent discussed. Now, it's what Woodley is thinking. Man, you should use these super powers you have to fight crime.

I'm ignorant for dealing in facts and statistics? Gotcha.

how much weight did woodley put on?