NY passes new state gun laws

[Vis]

Here's a summary listing of the 23 (which really weren't 23)


1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make itwidely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effectiveuse of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to developinnovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.



Now, seriously, which ones are objectionable to the wingnuts?

[MACH1]

The ones that's costing 4.5 billion in tax payer money that we don't have.

[Vis]

Originally Posted by MACH1

The ones that's costing 4.5 billion in tax payer money that we don't have.

Identify those.

[MACH1]

At Least $4.5 Billion in New Spending for Gun Control



President Obama and Vice President Biden revealed their proposed reforms intended to reduce firearms related violence.

The proposal contains a mix of executive actions, regulations, and calls for Congress to act legislatively. The total package will cost at least $4.5 billion in new spending.

Among the new spending the president proposed:

• $4 billion for the president’s proposal “to help keep 15,000 cops on the streets in cities and towns across the country.” (That is roughly $266,000 per police officer.)

• $20 million to “give states stronger incentives to make [relevant] data available [for background checks] … “$50 million for this purpose in FY2014”

• “$14 million to help train 14,000 more police officers and other public and private personnel to respond to active shooter situations.”

• “$10 million for the Centers for Disease Control to conduct further research, including investigating the relationship between video games, media images, and violence.”

• $20 million to expand the National Violent Death Reporting System.

• $150 million to “put up to 1,000 new school resource officers and school counselors on the job.”

• “$30 million of one-time grants to states to help their school districts develop and implement emergency management plans.”

• $50 million to help 8,000 schools “create safer and more nurturing school climates.”

• $15 million to “provide “Mental Health First Aid” training for teachers.”

• $40 million for school districts to “work with law enforcement, mental health agencies, and other local organizations to assure students with mental health issues or other behavioral issues are referred to the services they need.”

• $25 million for state-based strategies that support “young people ages 16 to 25 with mental health or substance abuse issues.”

• $25 million to “offer students mental health services for trauma or anxiety, conflict resolution programs, and other school-based violence prevention strategies.”

• $50 million to “train social workers, counselors, psychologists, and other mental health professionals.”

The president’s proposals to ban high capacity magazines and “military-style assault weapons” will be costly to implement, if they are passed. Those costs are either unknown or haven’t been released.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ol_696120.html

[MasterOfPuppets]

Armed men are citizens; unarmed men are subjects

To the Editor: Cumberland Times-News
I am writing this letter to encourage anyone who still cares about our Second Amendment rights to participate in National Gun Day on Saturday, Jan. 19. If we let them outlaw one type of firearm, it’s a slippery slope.

Every day our rights are being trampled on making our government more and more dictatorial. We must go out and support our rights.

On Jan. 19, we must go out and exercise our rights; hold some signs, hand out copies of the Constitution and patronize gun shops. We need to let them know we will not accept the taking of our guns.

A screwdriver can be an assault weapon if it is used to attack a person.

I know there have been several tragedies involving guns recently, however, according to the FBI’s crime statistics, more murders are committed annually with hammers than with guns.

Should we also register or outlaw our hammers? We cannot give up any more rights and continue to be a free nation! Our Founding Fathers had it right when they wrote the following:

“I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” — George Mason 1788

“Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American People’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence.” — George Washington

“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike how to use them, especially when young.” — Richard Henry Lee 1788

“Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.” — Thomas Jefferson

“Those who trade liberty for security have neither. An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject.” — John Adams

Gun control is not about controlling guns, it’s about controlling those who use the guns! Assault is a behavior, not a device .

Notice every communist country in the world has disarmed their people. The Soviet Union established gun control, and 1.5 million people unable to defend themselves were exterminated.

Germany established gun control and 13 million people unable to defend themselves were exterminated.

China established gun control and 20 million people unable to defend themselves were exterminated.

Need I go on? At least 56 million people have been rounded up and exterminated in the 20th century because of gun control.

Everybody who cares needs to speak up now!

Joel Jackson

Cumberland

[SCMom]

Originally Posted by Vis

Identify those.

You can't be serious? You think those EO's come for free???? They don't.

See, here's where, at the heart of it all, people disagree. Some people think that it's the federal governments job to protect them and take care of them in everyday matters. This was never the purpose of our federal government. Those issues are supposed to lie within our local and state governments.

The Constitution authorizes the feds to regulate in areas of national defense, foreign affairs, keeping interstate commerce regular, establishing a post office, protecting patents and artistic creations, and keeping the nation free. The areas of health, safety, welfare and morality were not delegated to the feds and were retained by the States.
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The Supreme Court has ruled consistently and countless times that the “police power,” that is, the power to regulate for health, safety, welfare and morality, continues to be reposed in the states, and that there is no federal police power. All of this is consistent with the philosophical principle of “subsidiarity,” famously articulated by St. Thomas Aquinas. Aquinas argued that the problems that are closest to the people needing government intervention should be addressed by the government closest to those people. Its corollary is that all governmental intervention should be the minimum needed.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/...#ixzz2IMxiHU00


Seriously, suck on it statists. I'm so tired of this argument. If you demand a central government to make moral laws for you, go move to Britain. I hear they love that crap there.


I don't hate those that want "gun control" (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean), I get that you're afraid of your fellow man. You shouldn't be, but I get it. You are targeting the wrong people with these actions though. Do any one of you who want Obama to pass gun bans want to question him about Fast and Furious? Anyone? You think he cares about your safety? Or your child's safety? He doesn't. But I guaran-damn-tee you that your neighbor with firearms would protect you and your children quicker than the federal government would if someone came breaking down your door. I'd take any one of you in to my home for protection if it ever came to that. I wouldn't even have to know you. I'm dead serious when I say that gun owners in America value your life more than the federal government does. Think about that.

[Killer]

Originally Posted by MACH1

At Least $4.5 Billion in New Spending for Gun Control

Hush now - don't scare the herd

Vis is a good German - Obama is their savior, and that's all that matters

[Killer]

This is what happens when you let the frothing-at-the-mouth gun grabbers get their foot in the door...it opens the nanny state floodgates


Massachusetts bill would require gun liability insurance

Massachusetts gun owners would be required to purchase liability insurance in case their firearm was ever used to injure someone under a bill being filed at the Statehouse.

The initiative is included in a gun control measure which would also change standards for gun licenses and outlaw large capacity magazines.

Under the bill being filed Friday, individuals applying for gun permits in Massachusetts would have to show proof of firearms insurance.

The bill's sponsor, Rep. David Linksy, compared the change to the requirement that car owners have auto insurance before registering their vehicles.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014373320

[MACH1]

Originally Posted by Killer

This is what happens when you let the frothing-at-the-mouth gun grabbers get their foot in the door...it opens the nanny state floodgates


Massachusetts bill would require gun liability insurance

Massachusetts gun owners would be required to purchase liability insurance in case their firearm was ever used to injure someone under a bill being filed at the Statehouse.

The initiative is included in a gun control measure which would also change standards for gun licenses and outlaw large capacity magazines.

Under the bill being filed Friday, individuals applying for gun permits in Massachusetts would have to show proof of firearms insurance.

The bill's sponsor, Rep. David Linksy, compared the change to the requirement that car owners have auto insurance before registering their vehicles.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014373320

Wheres all the outrage over car deaths. Better ban them even if it only saves one life.

[Killer]

I want one of these assault pistols




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