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Old 01-22-2013, 11:20 AM   #11
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Default Re: Offense or defense this draft?

I guess you have to look at history to figure this out.

Figure they are only "serious" about the first 4 rounds, anything after that is hit or miss diamond in the rough kind of stuff...so...

We went
OL
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LB
DL

DL
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DB
DB

OL
LB
WR
LB

DL
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WR
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RB
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LB
OL

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LB
TE
P

Since Tomlin has been coach.

That's 6 OL in the last 6 Drafts in the first 4 rounds.
5 LBs
3 DL
3 DB

1 RB
2 WR
6 OL
1 TE

11 Offense and 10 Defense

I imagine our next draft will look something like this:
DB
RB
WR
DL

Unless we cut James Harrison, then I can see
DB
LB
RB
WR
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:31 AM   #12
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As much as I love Heath, I'd love for us to pick up one of those NE type TEs that is more athletic. Especially since I don't think Heath is going to be ready next year.
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:50 AM   #13
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Talk about a ben hater. The steelers didnt draft to put talent around Ben, they did that one draft with Mendy and Sweed. Other than that it was 3rd and lower draft picks. hit or miss.

if our defense is so great as you think they are...23 is more than enough no?
Agreed. About the only reason this team didn't wind up in the neighborhood of 2-14 this past season was because a certain "non-superstar" spent the first half of the season constantly bailing us out of 3rd and long.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:01 PM   #14
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I can't believe people are complaining about not drafting more WRs. Ben had a 1st round TE in Heath Miller. Another 1st round WR in Santonio Holmes until the end of 2009. Complimented by Hines Ward- the most prolific WR in Steelers history. Why would they have drafted more WRs in Tomlin's first 3 years??? How many user names does Matt Millen have on this forum exactly???

What the draft order actually shows is OL was neglected until the last 2 years.

Tony Hills (4th) and Kraig Urbik (3rd) were the only efforts made to draft OL before Pouncey.

Steelers are drafting defense in the first round this year. It is a defensive year. The earliest an offensive player will be taken is in the second round. All the talk about Justin Hunter, Eddie Lacy or Tyler Eiffert is just noise. None of them will be available when the Steelers pick in the middle of the 2nd round.
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Both? Offense a priority.
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Speaking of defense, would anyone besides me risk a 3rd or 4th round pick on this guy if he's available? Our safeties are long in the tooth with no replacements on the roster. He would have been a first rounder if not for the ganja issues.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/sto...nter-nfl-draft
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Speaking of defense, would anyone besides me risk a 3rd or 4th round pick on this guy if he's available? Our safeties are long in the tooth with no replacements on the roster. He would have been a first rounder if not for the ganja issues.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/sto...nter-nfl-draft
6th round, if he's still there. He's apparently a huge prick to deal with off the field too. Something tells me that wouldn't fly with guys like Taylor, Woodley, Timmons, etc. and he might get isolated within the team pretty quickly.

He's also a huge liability in man-coverage and can't effectively get to the Quarterback or stop the run, so he'd only be used in specific packages. His stock back when he was a first rounder was purely hype-based. He's not a good CB and would have to be shifted to Safety if he were to play for us. That, and he's only 5'9 which makes him small and ineffective to blitz. I see more negatives than positives with taking him at this point. He needs a good agent and PR guy to repair the damage that has been done, but I don't know if he can fix the glaring holes in his game.
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Speaking of defense, would anyone besides me risk a 3rd or 4th round pick on this guy if he's available? Our safeties are long in the tooth with no replacements on the roster. He would have been a first rounder if not for the ganja issues.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/sto...nter-nfl-draft
He was actually projected as a 3rd rounder before the issues, not a 1st.

Having said that, I think we'll pass given the off field issues of two of last years picks.
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As much as I love Heath, I'd love for us to pick up one of those NE type TEs that is more athletic. Especially since I don't think Heath is going to be ready next year.
While I do not want the R1 or R2 pick to be a TE, I like Gavin Escobar (SDSU) in R3-R4ish. The kid plays exactly like Aaron Hernandez (who I like better than Gronk).
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Speaking of defense, would anyone besides me risk a 3rd or 4th round pick on this guy if he's available? Our safeties are long in the tooth with no replacements on the roster. He would have been a first rounder if not for the ganja issues.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/sto...nter-nfl-draft
Before Rainey & Ta'amu... maybe.

After Rainey & Ta'amu... no way.
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