Texas: Shooting-du-jour

[ricardisimo]

Two citizens today defended themselves from each other by shooting three other people who had nothing to do with either of them. God bless America.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21153340

[MACH1]

I thought gun free zones were going to stop this kind of thing.

[ricardisimo]

Are you suggesting that there's a single square inch of Texas that is gun-free?

[Atlanta Dan]

Originally Posted by ricardisimo

Are you suggesting that there's a single square inch of Texas that is gun-free?

Not just gun free - also knife and "club" free

It is the policy of this System to prohibit the carrying of firearms, knives and clubs onto any of the System's facilities,” the college’s weapons policy states. “The possession of firearms, illegal knives and prohibited knives on System facilities including parking areas and publicly accessed facilities

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2980844/posts

Any word on whether the right to bear clubs is protected under the 2nd Amendment?

Clubs don't kill people - people kill people

[harrison'samonster]

Originally Posted by Atlanta Dan

Not just gun free - also knife and "club" free

It is the policy of this System to prohibit the carrying of firearms, knives and clubs onto any of the System's facilities,” the college’s weapons policy states. “The possession of firearms, illegal knives and prohibited knives on System facilities including parking areas and publicly accessed facilities

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2980844/posts

Any word on whether the right to bear clubs is protected under the 2nd Amendment?

Clubs don't kill people - people kill people

ovens don't bake food - people bake food

[ricardisimo]

Hyperbole doesn't stretch the truth... people stretch the truth.

Actually my favorite is still Laurie Anderson's version: "It's not the bullet that kills you... It's the hole." Sheer genius.

[BlaZeQuietly]

This just proves that having armed guards at schools are not going to make them safer. I am very political and I appreciate the Obama administration's efforts, and the efforts locally here in NY to limit the number of rounds allowed in clips, It's nice that they are trying but this problem is horrible, and was ignored for far too long. Limiting clip sizes, banning ar-14's, all these ideas are too little too late, our streets are already flooded with guns, and criminals are going to continue to get their hands on them, legal or not, unfortunately I'm afraid we will see plenty more mass shootings with no end in sight. The tragedy in newtown really woke me up to this. that sick bastard who shot all the 6 and 7 year olds is so despicable it makes me want to vomit.

[ricardisimo]

People really have to stop tossing the word "criminal" around as if it is meaningful or informative. Criminality is ex post facto, just like "bad" or "wrong"... the term is useless ahead of time. What you can spot ahead of time, every time, is the fact that guns are designed to kill, and they do so rather efficiently, as the headlines can attest. Sometimes you can spot sick people, and that can be helpful. But it's not always all that clear, and often these are just bored, stupid kids.

The Second Amendment needs to be repealed. No other way around this problem. If it guaranteed the right to bioweapons or nukes and people were getting killed by these at similar rates as guns, this would be a no-brainer. But thanks to Hollywood we just can't give these fucking things up.

P.S. - And for the record, I don't see that it doesn't guarantee the right to nukes. It doesn't say "small arms", it just says "arms". ICBMs are "arms". Why can't I have one? I need to be able to "defend" myself.

[Vis]

What you have to realize is that people who are pro-gun (in this context) is that they are not are not pro-gun for the protection the gun provides or for any thought of a cost/benefit analysis. They are simply pro-gun for the wood the gun provides them. So they shrug off the deaths. It's the badass nature of the weapon that makes the woody so good.

[MACH1]

Originally Posted by BlaZeQuietly

This just proves that having armed guards at schools are not going to make them safer. I am very political and I appreciate the Obama administration's efforts, and the efforts locally here in NY to limit the number of rounds allowed in clips, It's nice that they are trying but this problem is horrible, and was ignored for far too long. Limiting clip sizes, banning ar-14's, all these ideas are too little too late, our streets are already flooded with guns, and criminals are going to continue to get their hands on them, legal or not, unfortunately I'm afraid we will see plenty more mass shootings with no end in sight. The tragedy in newtown really woke me up to this. that sick bastard who shot all the 6 and 7 year olds is so despicable it makes me want to vomit.

Banning ar14's should be easy since there is no such thing.

Originally Posted by ricardisimo

People really have to stop tossing the word "criminal" around as if it is meaningful or informative. Criminality is ex post facto, just like "bad" or "wrong"... the term is useless ahead of time. What you can spot ahead of time, every time, is the fact that guns are designed to kill, and they do so rather efficiently, as the headlines can attest. Sometimes you can spot sick people, and that can be helpful. But it's not always all that clear, and often these are just bored, stupid kids.

The Second Amendment needs to be repealed. No other way around this problem. If it guaranteed the right to bioweapons or nukes and people were getting killed by these at similar rates as guns, this would be a no-brainer. But thanks to Hollywood we just can't give these fucking things up.

P.S. - And for the record, I don't see that it doesn't guarantee the right to nukes. It doesn't say "small arms", it just says "arms". ICBMs are "arms". Why can't I have one? I need to be able to "defend" myself.

Should the 1st amendment be repealed since there was no such thing as phones, tv's, internet, telegraphs, social media, msnbc when it was written?

Show me one walmart I can walk into and buy a nuke, grenade, rpg.