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Old 01-26-2013, 11:16 AM   #71
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Default Re: Keenan Lewis Worth 8 Million a Year?

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I thought the Steelers did more pattern-matching (waiting for the recievers to break into their routes and then playing man to man) rather than a exact zone coverage. And I also remember reading that Lebeau's schemes have the CB's playing man to man most of the time (I could be remembering that one wrong).

Either way, when Taylor is covering the other teams #1, they don't have good games. He is such an important part of this team, and hopefully Lewis and Allen will be there the next 10 years holding down the position.
Exactly!! Zone defense is not covering an area.....as much as covering the WR in that area. Ike normally matches up on the opponents best WR in that zone and does a good job at denying them the ball.

If anybody watched Steelers games this year and didnt see Keenan Lewis as somebody that challenged and broke up passes....then they were not paying attention.

Attached is a link that shows Lewis was #2 in the NFL in passes defended with 23. http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/st...defended/2012/

So he had 4 more passes defended than Asante Samuel, but Samuel had 3 more INT's. Samuel has a 3 year $18.5mil contract. So $6 million plus is the market price and the fact that Lewis will command $6-8million a season contract is just the reality, so deal with it.
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:44 PM   #72
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Exactly!! Zone defense is not covering an area.....as much as covering the WR in that area. Ike normally matches up on the opponents best WR in that zone and does a good job at denying them the ball.

If anybody watched Steelers games this year and didnt see Keenan Lewis as somebody that challenged and broke up passes....then they were not paying attention.

Attached is a link that shows Lewis was #2 in the NFL in passes defended with 23. http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/st...defended/2012/

So he had 4 more passes defended than Asante Samuel, but Samuel had 3 more INT's. Samuel has a 3 year $18.5mil contract. So $6 million plus is the market price and the fact that Lewis will command $6-8million a season contract is just the reality, so deal with it.
Two more points to add to your post:

1. In XXX, Larry Brown had two INTs... and Deion had ZERO.

2. Sometimes, teams avoid players (eg teams never even tried to throw at Deion)... which meant less INTs.

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INTs are not the end-all be-all.
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My point is Keenan Lewis is worth barely 4 million/year.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:37 AM   #74
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Two more points to add to your post:

1. In XXX, Larry Brown had two INTs... and Deion had ZERO.

2. Sometimes, teams avoid players (eg teams never even tried to throw at Deion)... which meant less INTs.

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INTs are not the end-all be-all.
Good point. And my two cents is that any player can gave a great game at any given time. Your example of Brown and Deion in SB XXX is a prime example. It just so happens Lewis rose to the occasion this season and demonstrated his upside. That doesn't mean any other secondary players can't do that in camp and/or preseason in 2013.
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My point is Keenan Lewis is worth barely 4 million/year.
Just give them what the want. Keenan Lewis is the greatest thing since sliced bread,pay the man
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Just give them what the want. Keenan Lewis is the greatest thing since sliced bread,pay the man
They better give Lewis anything he wants. He's the next Rod Woodson, only without the interceptions, pro bowl selections, all pro selections, proven long-term track record, and the ability to return kicks. Other than that, they are completely identical.
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My point is Keenan Lewis is worth barely 4 million/year.
My point is that Professional Football Administrators, General Managers and Team Owners, in the NFL will likely give him around $6million a year or more contract......despite what message board posters say.

Fun part is that we will see in a few months.
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overpaying marginal players who only seem to fit our system is why we are in cap hell. lewis, off one good, not great year is not worth 8 million.
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No way I give him 8 mill a year ... for 1 decent season ???? ... what about the other horrible seasons where he couldn't sniff the field over Willy Gay???

if some team offers him 8 mill or even 6 say bye to him ... this draft is loaded at the DB position

Leave it to Steelers Fans to over rate their players
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Leave it to Steelers Fans to over rate their players
More like leave it to Steeler fans to bitch about a guy not progressing fast enough, then when he does....complain about it.

I'm glad we never overpaid that Mike Vrabel guy when he was a Steeler.
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