WR/Safety in the First Round - Page 3

WokeUpWithaWoodley · 01-28-2013, 07:22 AM

Kenny vaccaro is the pick if available at 17

wwhickok · 01-28-2013, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WokeUpWithaWoodley

Kenny vaccaro is the pick if available at 17

I've been saying this and I am glad that others are too. He actually reminds me a lot of Troy but I think he is a bit less 'wreckless'(though not much less) and a better wrap up tackler. Obviously there are areas he needs to improve but as often as Troy is injured Kenny figures in to be an immdiate help.

WokeUpWithaWoodley · 01-28-2013, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wwhickok

I've been saying this and I am glad that others are too. He actually reminds me a lot of Troy but I think he is a bit less 'wreckless'(though not much less) and a better wrap up tackler. Obviously there are areas he needs to improve but as often as Troy is injured Kenny figures in to be an immdiate help.

Kenny vaccaro would make an immediate impact in our nickel defense either covering the slot guy or tight ends which he did a lot in Texas, then take over at safety once Troy/Clark are gone

kan_t · 01-28-2013, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Steeldude

Exactly. If the Steelers pick a WR in the first you will have the same fans next year asking for a WR in the first and so on...

Replacing Wallace shouldn't be difficult. All they need to do is find a WR with a great 40 time. To be like Wallace all the WR needs to do put forth minimal to zero effort, drop passes and run straight ahead. Then do all of that for a fraction of what Wallace wants.

Yes it's difficult to replace him. Everyone knows that he would run straight ahead and he still beat most of the coverage. He is that fast. He demands other teams' deep coverage which is a huge advantage to other WR and TE. The real question is whether the Steelers needs to replace his deep threat role. He is a perfect fit in a big play scheme but not so much in Haley's scheme.

WokeUpWithaWoodley · 01-28-2013, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kan_t

Yes it's difficult to replace him. Everyone knows that he would run straight ahead and he still beat most of the coverage. He is that fast. He demands other teams' deep coverage which is a huge advantage to other WR and TE. The real question is whether the Steelers needs to replace his deep threat role. He is a perfect fit in a big play scheme but not so much in Haley's scheme.

Exactly Wallace's skills didn't fit Haley system all to well. If we go wr and if he drops to us in round 2 I'm all for deandre Hopkins from Clemson. You can look up his skills, strengths and weaknesses but I just want to point out other than being a great wr prospect the guy is not a showboat. Watch game film and specially highlights, when he scores a td he throws the ball to the ref and goes on the sideline. I hate when brown and sanders get first downs and act like its the biggest play that day----get back to the huddle and score. Seems like Hopkins is a good character guy as well ( that's just from what I saw on film)

BLACK_AND_YELLOW · 01-28-2013, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WokeUpWithaWoodley

Exactly Wallace's skills didn't fit Haley system all to well. If we go wr and if he drops to us in round 2 I'm all for deandre Hopkins from Clemson. You can look up his skills, strengths and weaknesses but I just want to point out other than being a great wr prospect the guy is not a showboat. Watch game film and specially highlights, when he scores a td he throws the ball to the ref and goes on the sideline. I hate when brown and sanders get first downs and act like its the biggest play that day----get back to the huddle and score. Seems like Hopkins is a good character guy as well ( that's just from what I saw on film)

Coming from a Clemson fan Hopkins is the real deal, just the the way he played this year and also coming up in big clutch moments like he did against LSU in the Sugar Bowl that last drive was beautiful lol
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LVSteelersfan · 01-28-2013, 11:40 AM

No WR in the first round. That would be plain stupid. We have a lower draft pick than we have had in awhile. Get a stud LB or CB (if we don't hang onto Keenan Lewis). Did someone actually mention a QB in the first round? You have got to be kidding. There is no way they draft a QB first. I think Hoyer would be a good backup if they can get him back. He is not geriatric and worked in a good system under Belicheat. I think he would be good enough to play a few games if needed. He would probably be at least as good as a lot of the starters we had back in the 90s which is all you need for a backup QB.

AgentGold007 · 01-28-2013, 01:58 PM

I think we get the best value by drafting an impact player that can start on day one on defense. Although I would not be disappointed at all if they drafted Vaccaro in the first round, I doubt very seriously he'll be a day one starter, unless Troy or Clark are injured, which wouldn't be a shock either, but under the assumption they stay relatively healthy, we won't see Vaccaro for maybe two years. I think we'd get the most immediate impact if we drafted either an ILB, OLB, or DT. Not saying necessarily that we have to take them in the first round to get immediate impact, just saying that the chances are a lot higher for getting a quick return on our investment if we addressed those positions with premium talent. With that being said, I still don't think that Manti Te'o would be out of the question if he's sitting there when the Steelers pick. I know there's a lot of drama surrounding him right now, but he's still the same player that most of us would have jumped for joy if the Steelers had a chance to draft him. He may have imaginary girlfriends, but he's still a hell of a football player, and I guarantee if we pass on him, the ravens won't. Maybe we can draft ILB, OLB, or DT in the first and then pick up Baccari Rambo in the 2nd or 3rd.

AgentGold007 · 01-28-2013, 02:05 PM

I doubt very seriously that we draft a WR in the first round. I think with the Steelers success of finding receivers in the third round and beyond, I think they believe that they can find a legit receiver after the first round.

teegre · 01-28-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AgentGold007

I doubt very seriously that we draft a WR in the first round. I think with the Steelers success of finding receivers in the third round and beyond, I think they believe that they can find a legit receiver after the first round.

Colbert had flat-out stated that teams can find WRs and RBs in the later rounds... which, he has.

The one "exception" was Spinny... which, seemed more of a "Tomlin not liking FWP & wanting a RB NOW" than a Colbert type of move.

01-28-2013, 07:22 AM	#21
WokeUpWithaWoodley Starter Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 469 Member Number: 24000 Thanks: 31 Thanked 93 Times in 66 Posts	Re: WR/Safety in the First Round Kenny vaccaro is the pick if available at 17

01-28-2013, 11:40 AM	#27
LVSteelersfan Team President Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,290 Gender: Male Member Number: 6620 Thanks: 0 Thanked 40 Times in 33 Posts	Re: WR/Safety in the First Round No WR in the first round. That would be plain stupid. We have a lower draft pick than we have had in awhile. Get a stud LB or CB (if we don't hang onto Keenan Lewis). Did someone actually mention a QB in the first round? You have got to be kidding. There is no way they draft a QB first. I think Hoyer would be a good backup if they can get him back. He is not geriatric and worked in a good system under Belicheat. I think he would be good enough to play a few games if needed. He would probably be at least as good as a lot of the starters we had back in the 90s which is all you need for a backup QB. __________________ COACH - Breakfast of Champions !!!

01-28-2013, 01:58 PM	#28
AgentGold007 Bench Warmer Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 190 Member Number: 20176 Thanks: 18 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts	Re: WR/Safety in the First Round I think we get the best value by drafting an impact player that can start on day one on defense. Although I would not be disappointed at all if they drafted Vaccaro in the first round, I doubt very seriously he'll be a day one starter, unless Troy or Clark are injured, which wouldn't be a shock either, but under the assumption they stay relatively healthy, we won't see Vaccaro for maybe two years. I think we'd get the most immediate impact if we drafted either an ILB, OLB, or DT. Not saying necessarily that we have to take them in the first round to get immediate impact, just saying that the chances are a lot higher for getting a quick return on our investment if we addressed those positions with premium talent. With that being said, I still don't think that Manti Te'o would be out of the question if he's sitting there when the Steelers pick. I know there's a lot of drama surrounding him right now, but he's still the same player that most of us would have jumped for joy if the Steelers had a chance to draft him. He may have imaginary girlfriends, but he's still a hell of a football player, and I guarantee if we pass on him, the ravens won't. Maybe we can draft ILB, OLB, or DT in the first and then pick up Baccari Rambo in the 2nd or 3rd.

01-28-2013, 02:05 PM	#29
AgentGold007 Bench Warmer Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 190 Member Number: 20176 Thanks: 18 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts	Re: WR/Safety in the First Round I doubt very seriously that we draft a WR in the first round. I think with the Steelers success of finding receivers in the third round and beyond, I think they believe that they can find a legit receiver after the first round.

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