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Old 01-30-2013, 02:06 PM   #41
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Default Re: Steelers Hire Jack Bicknell Jr. As OLine Coach

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Typically, zone blocking linemen are quicker to the point of attack, a talent needed to make screen passes work. Arians didn't use them much, and got similar results with the Bubble Screen, with much less work and effort reguired by the linemen.

Add to that we didn't have the linemen to get to the edge. Our offensive guards we've played over the years, sans DeCastro, are way too slow. Heck, they can't even get to the point of attact to hit a trap block in the 3-4 hole more than twice a game.
Having more athletic and smaller ZBS type linemen is not a prerequisite for running a screen pass. A center typically may have to pull 20 yards laterally to get to the point of the screen. Pouncey, DeCastro, Adams, Beechum are all athletic enough to get to a screen block.

If that was the rationale of thinking that a ZBS will help us run screen passes....I think its a stretch.

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I am not sure why a ZBL scheme would be preferred, with the Olinemen we currently have on roster.

Aren't the Steelers' Olinemen right now known for being HUGE, lumbering, bulldozers best suited to a straight ahead man blocking scheme? They aren't known for being particularly agile-- hence the poor pass protection and high number of sacks every year (yes, and Ben's playing style as well).
I dont think a ZBS is the answer, but most here want to because its different. The linemen on the roster now are perfectly capable of handling some Zone. They are athletic enough. I just dont think its in Haleys offense to go strictly zone, so I think it will stay man with some zone schemes in at times.

Its Jack Bicknell, not Alex Gibbs they hired.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:13 PM   #42
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if the OL ends up playing poorly, sloppyjoe will be on here saying it's the last straw and Tomlin should be fired for hiring Bicknell as the OL coach

tell me then, who hired our last 2 oline coaches and our ST coach?
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:22 PM   #43
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tell me then, who hired our last 2 oline coaches and our ST coach?
Probably Mike Tomlin. Larry Zierlein was the coach before Kugler and now he's the head coach of UTEP. Now, our offensive line coach is Bicknell from Kansas City. I don't see what your point is.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:28 PM   #44
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Probably Mike Tomlin. Larry Zierlein was the coach before Kugler and now he's the head coach of UTEP. Now, our offensive line coach is Bicknell from Kansas City. I don't see what your point is.
he has no point. it's a common technique of liars and bullshiters. they like to keep the argument going in circles telling as many lies as possible and never backing up statements with facts.
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he has no point. it's a common technique of liars and bullshiters. they like to keep the argument going in circles telling as many lies as possible and never backing up statements with facts.
the point is simple. topmlin has been responsible for hiring 3 guys since he's been here. all 3 have sucked.
he was too stupid to fire ariands so rooney had to do it. it was so embarrassing that tomlin had to have a press conference to say that he actually fired arians, not rooney.......how insecure do you have to be to asked the rooneys if it is okay if he actually took resposibilityu for the firing of his OC?
the rooneys saw how inept tomlin is, so they did the hiring of haley and i am sure they hired the new oline guy also. the rooney are starting to see how the standard is the standard with this clown they gave the HC to.
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he has no point. it's a common technique of liars and bullshiters. they like to keep the argument going in circles telling as many lies as possible and never backing up statements with facts.
he's even bullshitting who he is - a Steelers fan?

It's Joe Flacco playing mind games with us - GET OUT OF MY HEAD JOE
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the point is simple. topmlin has been responsible for hiring 3 guys since he's been here. all 3 have sucked.
he was too stupid to fire ariands so rooney had to do it. it was so embarrassing that tomlin had to have a press conference to say that he actually fired arians, not rooney.......how insecure do you have to be to asked the rooneys if it is okay if he actually took resposibilityu for the firing of his OC?
the rooneys saw how inept tomlin is, so they did the hiring of haley and i am sure they hired the new oline guy also. the rooney are starting to see how the standard is the standard with this clown they gave the HC to.
What you've just said is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no thanks, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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What you've just said is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no thanks, and may God have mercy on your soul.

lol..still sore from the ass pounding i gave you last week i see
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lol..still sore from the ass pounding i gave you last week i see
The ass pounding? Please, refresh my memory. The one in which you told me Woodley gained no weight because I didn't physically weigh him? Or the ass pounding in which I showed you that Woodley was on for 18.5 sacks prior his injury? Oh, that same ass pounding in which everyone else thought you were a lunatic and rambling on about nothing?

Man, that one hurt. I suggest you walk away with whatever self respect you have left before other people realize the stupidity just secreting from your mouth isn't a joke.
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The ass pounding? Please, refresh my memory. The one in which you told me Woodley gained no weight because I didn't physically weigh him? Or the ass pounding in which I showed you that Woodley was on for 18.5 sacks prior his injury? Oh, that same ass pounding in which everyone else thought you were a lunatic and rambling on about nothing?

Man, that one hurt. I suggest you walk away with whatever self respect you have left before other people realize the stupidity just secreting from your mouth isn't a joke.
can you show me where i said woodely did not put on any weight?
just the facts maam, just the facts......lol
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