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Old 01-30-2013, 07:56 PM   #11
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That's fine. Call him out on his views. You have a right to do that, just like he has a right to speak out against Gays.

However, no one should be excluded from the team. Like I said, this is where Culliver went wrong. He can speak up for himself, but he cannot speak up for the organization.
It's employment at will - if your private employer is taking a greater hit from your conduct than you are delivering to the bottom line then you are gone (same reason the Steelers said bye bye to Rainey but kept Harrison and Roethlisberger)

That DB has a right to say what he wants and the 49ers have a right to get rid of him
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:07 PM   #12
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There's a kind of notion that everyone's opinion is equally valid. My arse! A bloke who's been a professor of dentistry for 40 years doesn't have a debate with some idiot who removes his teeth with string and a door!
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So which is it? You can't play the "I have a right" card then come back and play this.

Tell you what. I'll just say that you are wrong and leave it at that.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:08 PM   #13
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It's employment at will - if your private employer is taking a greater hit from your conduct than you are delivering to the bottom line then you are gone (same reason the Steelers said bye bye to Rainey but kept Harrison and Roethlisberger)

That DB has a right to say what he wants and the 49ers have a right to get rid of him
The "business" notion is not what I'm worried about. That's the Niners' business.

I'm just not going to hang the guy for what he said.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:12 PM   #14
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Maybe the team can educate him. Instead of validating ignorance, overcome it.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:15 PM   #15
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Maybe the team can educate him. Instead of validating ignorance, overcome it.
Cutting him is only good for the Niners' bottom line and avoiding PR trouble, not overcoming bigotry.
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Cutting him is only good for the Niners' bottom line and avoiding PR trouble, not overcoming bigotry.
Who said to cut him? Make him stay in San Francisco. Travel the city. See the sights.
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Oh no, he doesn't like gay people! What a vile monster! You can't be anything but acceptable about gay people! You must only positive about Gays. You cannot be negative. You must ONLY be accepting and approving of LGBT. This hypocritical whiny self-indulgent attitude is ridiculous and needs to stop. The moment someone says "I don't like you", you want to hang them. He doesn't have to like Gays.

I don't think he worded it properly, but he has a right to his words. If you want to hold accountable to his words, that's fine. But I'm not going to hang the guy for stating his honest truth. Does he have a right to speak for the team? No. But he shouldn't hide what he really thinks if he's asked a question. If he doesn't swing that way, then that's who he is. Acceptance goes both ways. If a man wants the ****, then that's his perogative. Culliver shouldn't have to pretend that he likes it.

Unless this Culliver fellow is taking a gay person and beating him to death for being gay, he isn't doing anything wrong by being honest with himself and others. By all means feel "ashamed" and feel "disgusted" and "indignified" by someone telling the truth. It proves that we lack a spine.
You're all over the place here and never make a relevant point! Who said anything about hanging Culliver?
You claim people who are ashamed of his discourse lack a spine, but how so? Being embarrassed by stupid opinions is nothing spineless. If you went on tv advocating creationism I'd be ashamed for you.

Again, I'm not entirely sure what you're point is, except that Culliver has a right to voice his viewpoint, which nobody was contesting.
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So which is it? You can't play the "I have a right" card then come back and play this.

Tell you what. I'll just say that you are wrong and leave it at that.
Since u didn't understand it before what he said was everyone had a right to voice their "opinion" but that doesn't make them equally respectable. A pretty simple truth
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I don't care who you are, gay/straight/whatev, that there is funny.
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