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Old 01-29-2013, 06:21 PM   #11
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Default Re: Vatican supports Obama on gun control

the real reason why YOU need a gun...and why the government is working on disarming the population.
sure they say its only certain types of weapons that nobody has a practical use for such as hunting..but thats how it begins.

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OK Mr. Biblical scholar, what does it mean then? Every single pastor I ever heard has the same position that I do. In fact that is the only interpetation you could take, because to say anything else would be pure nonsense.
Read the rest of the passage. Why are 2 enough? You can't defend 11 with 2. What was the point? I bet your pastors never went into that because they cherry pick to make whatever point they want to make instead of looking for the original meaning. Read what he did when Peter pulled a sword and used it. Then read Matthew 26:52.
Follow it by noting them accepting persecution peacefully afterwards - many examples in Acts. Not one defends with a sword.

And I was a religion major in college.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:33 PM   #13
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OK Mr. Biblical scholar, what does it mean then? Every single pastor I ever heard has the same position that I do. In fact that is the only interpetation you could take, because to say anything else would be pure nonsense.
You can prove anything you want by taking one or two quotes from Bible.
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Of course I believe the Catholic Church to be a detriment to the world.
And yet you majored in "religion" in college. I hope you hold some religious beliefs then.

I believe the interpretation that states that Jesus was telling his followers that they would have to defend THEMSELVES in the future was correct- not that they had to defend Jesus.

Similarly, in the excerpt from Matthew you cited the followers were not to interfere with the prophesies by which Jesus had to be martyred. Jesus' death was God's will and the salvation of mankind... if you believe that sort of thing.

How do you rationalize Exodus 22-2 2 “If a thief is caught breaking in at night and is struck a fatal blow, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed."

Could that fatal blow be delivered with a .357 Magnum? Does it matter what the fatal blow is dealth with?
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You can prove anything you want by taking one or two quotes from Bible.
Ezekiel 23:20?
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I guess the NRA got the word to Pope Benedict that supporters of gun control are unfit to hold office
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fuck the Vatican, and fuck Obama!
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