Chad Brown calls Lewis overrated

[BleedPurple]

Originally Posted by TRH

As a linebacker : above-average to very good, no question. But there's plenty of guys who are, and who have in the past, wiped the floor with him at LB in comparison

Name. . . 10--in the history of the league-- and I will tear apart any argument you make. Of the 10 you name I will point out how you must be a moron for putting 8 of them ahead of Lewis.

Above average? What a joke.

[harrison'samonster]

Originally Posted by BleedPurple

Name. . . 10--in the history of the league-- and I will tear apart any argument you make. Of the 10 you name I will point out how you must be a moron for putting 8 of them ahead of Lewis.

Above average? What a joke.

in the whole history of the league? You mean I can go all the way back to 1996! That's when football was invented in Baltimore.

[TRH]

Originally Posted by i82much

This is sugarcoated nonsense. There is no question Ray Lewis is an all-time great. No question. This is the equivalent of a Ravens fan saying Polamalu is overrated. Both examples of statements that are silly, stupid, and based entirely on personal feelings that have no basis in fact.

everybody's entitled to their opinions. He's goes down as great - and i don't disagree with it - due more in part to his leadership attributes & popularity than his play on the field. I i don't even know how that can be disputed.
And his play on the field was no question above average/excellent.

And for the record, i have always liked Lewis, many times defending him and saying he would have been a great Steeler, while listening to others trash him on here. I just don't drink this "greatest ever Kool-aid". Once again, i don't disagree with Chad Brown.

[WVABE]

There's no doubt Ray is one of the better LB's to have played the game and deserves the HOF honors.

As for the tackling, I see a lot of players just barely get a hand on the offensive player and get credit for a tackle or sack. Every team has a great player with hyped up numbers.

[BleedPurple]

Originally Posted by harrison'samonster

in the whole history of the league? You mean I can go all the way back to 1996! That's when football was invented in Baltimore.

lol, you can go back to 1896 if you want, there aren't 10 players better at MLB, not even arguably. I would argue there aren't 2 other players better at MLB, but that is definitely arguable as it gets crowded at the top.

[Fire Arians]

Originally Posted by BleedPurple

lol, you can go back to 1896 if you want, there aren't 10 players better at MLB, not even arguably. I would argue there aren't 2 other players better at MLB, but that is definitely arguable as it gets crowded at the top.

i could, butkus and singletary

butkus was definitely the most intimidating ever

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[BleedPurple]

Originally Posted by Fire Arians

i could, butkus and singletary

butkus was definitely the most intimidating ever

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Like I said, 2 is arguable as I think Butkus, Lambert, and Singletary are all in that conversation. But I'm arguing against someone who called him above average to very good, who you will notice has not chimed in with his list of 10 all time that are better, because you run out of choices that make sense when you get to 3 or 4.

[Fire Arians]

Originally Posted by BleedPurple

Like I said, 2 is arguable as I think Butkus, Lambert, and Singletary are all in that conversation. But I'm arguing against someone who called him above average to very good, who you will notice has not chimed in with his list of 10 all time that are better, because you run out of choices that make sense when you get to 3 or 4.

true, well if anyone says he's average is sipping the haterade. i personally don't like the guy and have no love for the ravens, but ray lewis was a great player and lock in for the HOF without a doubt. even enemies can show respect, cheers.

[Edman]

1996-2006 Ray Lewis: Easily one of the best to ever play. No question.

2007-Present Ray Lewis: Pompous Pilejumper who is still a decent player, but nowhere near the best. Barks more than bites.

Funny how it was around the latter part was when Ray started running his mouth a lot more often about how great he is. But his early years are still quite fantastic and easily makes in a shoo-in for the HOF.

[Atlanta Dan]

Ray Lewis must be the best football player in the world, right?
Hardly. Lewis, who was the MVP of that Super Bowl in 2001, is retiring after this season, and you can argue it's a year or two late. He still racks up a bunch of tackles, but that's a lousy way to gauge a defensive player's effectiveness. He's a step or three slow and tends to drift in pass coverage. He's more an emotional leader than a defensive standout anymore. But mostly: He's a relentless self-promoter. He has perfected the art of getting cameras on him at all times, from every possible angle.

Didn't he kill a guy?
He was never convicted. He is the only person to be charged in the murder of Richard Loller in January 2000, but with obstruction of justice. Lewis isn't particularly fond of discussing the case, but note that the victim's family feels otherwise. Lewis, of course, has turned the crime into his own redemption narrative, the story of his journey to self-discovery.

Man, Ray Lewis is a dick.
He really is. Oh, and don't ask him about deer-antler spray.

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