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Old 02-04-2013, 01:01 AM   #101
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:03 AM   #102
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:11 AM   #103
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Elite's a stupid term anyhow. There I said that. No one was talking about Tom Brady being elite when he won his Super Bowls but when NE became a more pass first offense, that's when that talk started and yes I know Spygate and NE's defense slipping since then but you get my point. Not taking anything away from Flacco. He's a very good QB which is fine and enough. Elite is the best of the best. I don't think Flacco is there yet because I do feel he is still sometimes too inconsistent but he is a better QB than I thought. Still rather would have Roethlisberger over him but Flacco's good at what he does and I hope the Ravens make him a very wealthy man.
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Elite's a stupid term anyhow. There I said that. No one was talking about Tom Brady being elite when he won his Super Bowls but when NE became a more pass first offense, that's when that talk started and yes I know Spygate and NE's defense slipping since then but you get my point. Not taking anything away from Flacco. He's a very good QB which is fine and enough. Elite is the best of the best. I don't think Flacco is there yet because I do feel he is still sometimes too inconsistent but he is a better QB than I thought. Still rather would have Roethlisberger over him but Flacco's good at what he does and I hope the Ravens make him a very wealthy man.
I understand your point. And to an extent I agree. Your Ben is your QB and of course you will stand behind him. But Joe Flacco took Baltimore all the way this year and won in near impossible odds with everyone against us and saying our season would end at Broncos, at New England etc.. And we beat all odds and Joe brought us there.
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:19 AM   #105
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Flacco is not a bad quarterback. He was a first round pick. But, he is still bouncing passing to his receivers. What's more amusing is that they are actually catching his passes on the one-hop, hoping to fool the Refs. As he continues to develop as a QB, he'll rank up there, but I don't think Flacco will ever be among the elite. He throws a nice tight spiral, but his long passes aren't that accurate. And a lot of the time, his short passes have too much on them for the receiver to handle. Like many quarterbacks that are not elite, Joe Flacco lacks certain, key passing skills and he may never develop them.
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:51 AM   #106
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Ray Rice didn't get near 100 yards rushing and his defense nearly gave up one of the biggest leads in Super Bowl history and they STILL won the Super Bowl.

Flacco's performance today was probably better than any of Ben's performances, so honestly, it's hard for me NOT to give him credit. He deserves it.

Elite? Fuck that.

There's tons of great QB's playing the game, but when I think of elite, I think of guys like Bradshaw and Montana. Not Peyton Manning and Drew Brees with their combined 2 Super Bowl wins.

But, since I go by rings, my list would have to go like this.

I just hate Brady so much my fingers may not allow me to type it out.

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Old 02-04-2013, 02:03 AM   #107
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He was elite today. He was also elite in the playoffs. 11 TDs and no INTs is pretty elite. He wins in the post season and that makes him elite in my books. When you win more than you lose in the playoffs, you're elite.
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Ben has never played in a Superbowl the way Flacco played yesterday,
Ben has never been voted SB MVP and didn't deserve it either.
That's for on-the-field criterias

Now, let's talk about off-the-field criterias
Flacco doesn't run his mouth the way Ben does
Flacco hasn't been accused of 2 sexual assaults

After this season, Flacco ranks ahead of Ben, no question. Career wise? Ben still has an edge but it's not a big one and the gap is narrowing very quickly.

Oh, and whoever ranked Ben #2 QB at this point needs to pass around what he's smoking.
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Ben has never played in a Superbowl the way Flacco played yesterday,
Ben has never been voted SB MVP and didn't deserve it either.
That's for on-the-field criterias

Now, let's talk about off-the-field criterias
Flacco doesn't run his mouth the way Ben does
Flacco hasn't been accused of 2 sexual assaults

After this season, Flacco ranks ahead of Ben, no question. Career wise? Ben still has an edge but it's not a big one and the gap is narrowing very quickly.

Oh, and whoever ranked Ben #2 QB at this point needs to pass around what he's smoking.
...as much as I hated saying thankyou, I sadly agree with the above.

Ben's got to make some major inward changes, with solidly focused commitments, to this "new" Offenseive strategy being cooked up by Haley.
...and If Ben doesn't ?, then he himself will be the one who's cooked for yet another downfall season...

Wearing the same "rose-colored:-fan's" glasses simply ain't gonna cut it next season.
It's better to be respectfully critical, and somewhat accurate, than the alternatives.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:46 AM   #110
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I think Flacco brought himself into top 7 consideration with this playoff run. Overall, he wasn't great this season, but the postseason was almost flawless. He's taken over guys like Romo, Rivers, Ryan. But he's really the next guy on the list until he does it a little more consistently. But I'd say he's gone from top 12 to top 7 now.
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I'm not just talking this year obviously, but entire body of work.
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