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Old 02-06-2013, 01:08 PM   #11
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because he doesnt come out on to the field dancing like an idiot, he doesnt do interviews where he is telling everyone how great he is. He isnt getting into fights at clubs or getting DUI's. That's how you become famous now. For acting like a complete ahole AND playing well.
Is Willis doing any of those things?

I think the problem was that the Steelers had such a disappointing season, which undeservedly tainted everyone with the stink of failure. The Steelers weren't that bad in absolute terms, but because we all expected them to make the playoffs and make some noise, they seemed worse than they actually were.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:12 PM   #12
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If Timmons played like he did in other years, what I consider under what we should expect from a first round ILB, our defense would have been aweful.

i agree he was our MVP and I say that over Heath because Miller was a non factor in games Ben wasnt in. Timmons was a playmaker and made up for injuries to Harrison, Woodley , Ike and Troy.

Lets hope it continues.
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But this wasn't his breakout year. His stats in 2010 were better.
No way was us better. He had a good year in 2010 but had half the sacks he had this yer, lessiinterceptions, no touchdownsin 2010 and wwasn't as dominant. I agree he wasvery ggoodand had aa lotof ttackles but he was dominant this year. With that said, who would you pull out to put Timmons in? That's what it comes down to.
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If Timmons played like he did in other years, what I consider under what we should expect from a first round ILB, our defense would have been aweful.

i agree he was our MVP and I say that over Heath because Miller was a non factor in games Ben wasnt in. Timmons was a playmaker and made up for injuries to Harrison, Woodley , Ike and Troy.

Lets hope it continues.
While I don't disagree that Timmons was the team MVP this year, Miller was a huge factor in Baltimore when he had over 100 yards receiving and caught Chrarlie Batch's only touchdown pass in that game, which was a difference maker in a game that ended 23-20. Although he was a non factor in the first game against Baltimore and in Cleveland, he was definitely a difference maker in Baltimore when Ben didn't play.
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Past performance was not sub-par. he's always been solid, now exceptional. But like the posts above and the history of some here even calling him a bust, he suffers from fans' distorted views.
This is exactly right. Timmons has been a Probowl caliber player for the past 3 years. The FO knows it- that's why they pay him 10 M per year. You don't pay busts 10 M per year and he signed that deal at the end of 2010.

Timmons had a down year STATISTICALLY in 2011 because he played 3 different positions. Timmons is not a good OLB in the Steelers' system.

Again, if Steelers fans don't get behind their players and push them to the Probowl then those players are not going to get the recognition they deserve. Saying that Timmons has been "subpar" or a "bust" is completely asinine.
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This is exactly right. Timmons has been a Probowl caliber player for the past 3 years. The FO knows it- that's why they pay him 10 M per year. You don't pay busts 10 M per year and he signed that deal at the end of 2010.

Timmons had a down year STATISTICALLY in 2011 because he played 3 different positions. Timmons is not a good OLB in the Steelers' system.

Again, if Steelers fans don't get behind their players and push them to the Probowl then those players are not going to get the recognition they deserve. Saying that Timmons has been "subpar" or a "bust" is completely asinine.
you must not watch the games. pro bowl caliber the last three years? uh not!
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you must not watch the games. pro bowl caliber the last three years? uh not!
I do watch the games. That's the point. You wait for ESPN to tell you Timmons is Probowl caliber. That's the difference. Timmons has been Probowl caliber since the 2010 season.

Lawrence Timmons makes more than Harrison or Polamalu. Do you think the Steelers FO believes he is a Probowl caliber player or are they just vastly overpaying him for fun? The 3rd highest paid player on the Steelers isn't Probowl caliber?

What Farrior said about him after the 2010 season:

"He reminds me a lot of Troy," Farrior said of Timmons. "He makes plays the way Troy makes plays. He closes on ballcarriers and receivers the way Troy does because there's a lot of instincts Troy has that he has. He could get back there and play safety if he wanted to."
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I do watch the games. That's the point. You wait for ESPN to tell you Timmons is Probowl caliber. That's the difference. Timmons has been Probowl caliber since the 2010 season.

Lawrence Timmons makes more than Harrison or Polamalu. Do you think the Steelers FO believes he is a Probowl caliber player or are they just vastly overpaying him for fun? The 3rd highest paid player on the Steelers isn't Probowl caliber?

What Farrior said about him after the 2010 season:

"He reminds me a lot of Troy," Farrior said of Timmons. "He makes plays the way Troy makes plays. He closes on ballcarriers and receivers the way Troy does because there's a lot of instincts Troy has that he has. He could get back there and play safety if he wanted to."
he's as good as that OLB we had, Chad Brown
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he's as good as that OLB we had, Chad Brown
Which OLB would you have Chad Brown start over? Kevin Greene or Greg Lloyd? Which of those 2 OLBs is Brown better than?

Brown did not play OLB immediately upon joining the Steelers because the OLBs in place were 2 of the best ever at that position.

Chad Brown started at OLB for Colorado in his junior and senior season.

Chad Brown played 8 consecutive seasons at OLB for the Seattle Seahawks after he left the Steelers.

Brown started 30 games as an ILB and 130 games as an OLB in his NFL career.

Now you tell me... is he an OLB or an ILB?
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for the steelers he was an ILB who ONLY played OLB for the steelers from an injury.

so i guess Woodley is a DE since he played DE in college

or carnell lake is a LB because he played LB at UCLA.
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