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Old 02-08-2013, 01:57 AM   #11
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Default Re: Pittsburgh fire sale: The Steelers could lose every one of their FAs

This year is for the Steelers to re-tool. As long as the Steelers have a good QB, they will stay competitive. Just ask the Colts.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:10 AM   #12
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Absolutely not. We throw a plethora of our later round picks away anyway.

Now is the time to DRAFT AN IMPACTFUL PLAYER in the first round and second rounds.

No more Ziggy Hoods (misfit in our D), Cameron Heywards (barely plays), Jason Worilds (sucks), O-linemen who get injured, etc.
Worilds sucks? Than why is it he leads the team in sacks and he's not even a starter? Every time he's in the game he's beating up the QB's in seems like.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:21 AM   #13
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There will be a purge, no doubt. Trading down for extra picks makes sense only if the player targeted in Round 1 will still be available for us. IMO, we have an immediate need at safety and ILB. If Vaccaro is there at 17 he should be taken, if he is gone and we can trade down and get Elam (5-0 scenario) then fine.
I agree with Rooney we need an impactful player in round 1 and round 2.
All this being said though, we need to attempt to keep Lewis if possible and not purge too many vets, (I'm for keeping Keisel) If we are not careful I see another decade like the 80's coming on.
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Haven't you heard? The Steelers are done, the Bengals are better than the Steelers, and the Ravens will dominate the AFC North for years to come. At least, that's what Ravens fans on this board are saying, and we all know they are always right.

Yeah...about that..
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:38 AM   #15
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There will be a purge, no doubt. Trading down for extra picks makes sense only if the player targeted in Round 1 will still be available for us. IMO, we have an immediate need at safety and ILB. If Vaccaro is there at 17 he should be taken, if he is gone and we can trade down and get Elam (5-0 scenario) then fine.
I agree with Rooney we need an impactful player in round 1 and round 2.
All this being said though, we need to attempt to keep Lewis if possible and not purge too many vets, (I'm for keeping Keisel) If we are not careful I see another decade like the 80's coming on.
I think Lewis, Starks in that order should be priority. I know it would be extremely hard to keep both and Starks does deserve a solid pay day. Question - would Wallace's money still be available after all the cuts, or would we potentially be using that dough to spread around to the depth of the other positions?

I don't believe in getting rid of all 3 O-lineman - Starks, Foster, Legursky - someone in our O-line is gonna go down (inevitable) and not having any of those guys is reaaaaallly askin for it.

On the other side - we need to keep either Harrison or Keisel - I'm not seeing a way to keep both. Thoughts?

Did anyone hear about Ryan Clark taking down his twitter - I've heard its a potential sign or that he did it much like Legursky - too cut down on the fan speculation before they know what will actually happen?
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trade trade trade anyone on defense with value like harrison, woodley or Troy as they are brand names.
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Guys who are chronically injured and/or on the wrong side of 30 do not bring much trade value.
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Worilds sucks? Than why is it he leads the team in sacks and he's not even a starter? Every time he's in the game he's beating up the QB's in seems like.
Worilds played better on Woodley's side than he did early in the year when replacing Harrison. That said, I'm guessing at least half his sacks resulted from missed assignments - I remember him running through air to get to at least two of them.
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There will be a purge, no doubt. Trading down for extra picks makes sense only if the player targeted in Round 1 will still be available for us. IMO, we have an immediate need at safety and ILB. If Vaccaro is there at 17 he should be taken, if he is gone and we can trade down and get Elam (5-0 scenario) then fine.
I agree with Rooney we need an impactful player in round 1 and round 2.
All this being said though, we need to attempt to keep Lewis if possible and not purge too many vets, (I'm for keeping Keisel) If we are not careful I see another decade like the 80's coming on.
Good post. I was thing the same thing about this reminding me of the early 80s. One big difference, Ben, warts and all, is still way better that anybody we had at that position in the 80's sans Bradshaw.

Speaking of FAs, we have 20 more players at the end of their contracts next year too. This is going to be a huge roster flip the likes we've not seen since 1969 when Noll took over.
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Worilds played better on Woodley's side than he did early in the year when replacing Harrison. That said, I'm guessing at least half his sacks resulted from missed assignments - I remember him running through air to get to at least two of them.
Worilds IMO is a better every down LB than Woodley. No question. That said, he lacks 50% of the big play but seldom used potential Woodley has. Lumbering Lamar does have the wow factor going for him, but on a play by play basis, Worlids does a much more consitent job.

All things considered, if Hood would play like a 1st rounder should, it would help both of those guys a lot..
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People saying that guys like Troy, Harrison, Keisel, etc. are chronically injured and don't bring trade value aren't wrong, but fortunately for us, organizations like the Jets and Raiders exist so we can dump our garbage on them and get draft picks. You're forgetting that the Raiders gave up first round picks for Carson Palmer.

If those kind of deals take place, I'm sure a team that needs a Safety, ROLB and DE would give up a fairly high pick for one or two of those guys.
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