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Old 02-09-2013, 11:43 AM   #1
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Default Mike Wallace vs Swann, Ward etc.

Wallace had 32 TDs in his first 4 years while Swann had 23, Ward had 15, Stallworth had 14 and Brown had 7 in his first 3.

In my mind, Wallace is one of the best Steelers WRs all-time and I will be extremely disappointed to see him go. Wallace had some key big drops this past season which was out of character for him ( I don't remember anyone complaining about his hands pre-lockout).

I strongly feel that retaining Wallace should have been the FO top priority. For once I would like to see a Steelers WR who has excellent chemistry with Ben to stay on the team after they are finally on the same page. Marvin Harrison played 10 seasons with Manning, Rice played 7 with Montana etc. I'm not saying that ben and Wallace are as good just pointing out how helpful it has been to have continuity for QB / WR combos over the years on other teams.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:00 PM   #2
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Default Re: Mike Wallace vs Swann, Ward etc.

different era. compare wallace to the players of the last 5 -10 years in their first 4 years if you want an accurate comparison.

Since you werent around then, the steelers didnt start throwing really until after the rules changes (the Mel Blount rule). You cant go by numbers, its not fantasy football.

in swanns first 4 years he had 2 super bowl wins and a super bowl mvp in a running era.

Stallworth too had 2 championships

if thats the case, donnie shell and mike wagner are better than troy based only on interceptions.

ridiculous post.
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Default Re: Mike Wallace vs Swann, Ward etc.

I'm guessing lloydwoodson is too young to have watched the 70's Steelers teams play. Nobody who actually watched Stallworth and Swan would compare them to Mike Wallace - it's laughable. Those two were exceptional receivers in every way. Wallace can run fast, but his routes are imprecise and his hands are poor.

Seriously, there are so many levels of separation here ...
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Default Re: Mike Wallace vs Swann, Ward etc.

"Strongly feel retaining Mike Wallace should of been FO priority".

10 million a year wasn't "priority" money? Fuck that. He's not worth 10 million a year.
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I'm guessing lloydwoodson is too young to have watched the 70's Steelers teams play. Nobody who actually watched Stallworth and Swan would compare them to Mike Wallace - it's laughable. Those two were exceptional receivers in every way. Wallace can run fast, but his routes are imprecise and his hands are poor.

Seriously, there are so many levels of separation here ...
I was around back then, so is it equally insane for others to compare Ben to Bradshaw? Just a question that has to be asked based on your post. Bradshaw has 4 rings and could throw the deep ball consistently accurate. Ben has 2 rings and doesn't throw it deep often, even less now in Haley's system.

Both Swanie and Stallworth were deep threats and gave Ds fits, whereas our current team only has one deep threat, pending the possible split with Mike.
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Default Re: Mike Wallace vs Swann, Ward etc.

Wallace has been successful stat-wise early in his career, I'll give you that. However, I don't think he's a better receiver than Ward, Holmes, Burress, Charles Johnson, or Yancey Thigpen. It's still questionable whether he's better than Antonio Brown (although I'm sure a lot of ppl will disagree). I can't comment on Stallworth or Swann or Lipps myself, not being old enough to have seen them play.
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Default Re: Mike Wallace vs Swann, Ward etc.

It makes me laugh how you guys so easily forget what wallace has done for this team yet tend to overlook Brown's shortcomings because he is under contract.
If you want to compare Wallace to more recent players then compare his first 3 yearsto the top WR's , Fitzgeral , Megatron, White and Marshall and you'll see Wallace is right up there with them.
I agree wallace had a down year but he's still more valuable to our team then most of you think and you'll find thatout this sseason
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I was around back then, so is it equally insane for others to compare Ben to Bradshaw? Just a question that has to be asked based on your post. Bradshaw has 4 rings and could throw the deep ball consistently accurate. Ben has 2 rings and doesn't throw it deep often, even less now in Haley's system.

Both Swanie and Stallworth were deep threats and gave Ds fits, whereas our current team only has one deep threat, pending the possible split with Mike.
I think that comparing Ben and Bradshaw is very interesting. That's a comparison that merits discussion, because they're both somewhere in the same class in terms of their play. Wallace just isn't near the same class as Swan/Stallworth, although I once believed that he could be with continued development - but based on the last one and a half seasons, I'm less hopeful.
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Default Re: Mike Wallace vs Swann, Ward etc.

He had a down your because he was afraid of getting hurt with his mega contract on the line..... It was glaringly obvious....

As for his worth, who cares about how he stacks up against whoever, the point is we are going to be a lesser team without him. But you also have to consider that if we "Pay the Man, that means somebody else or somebodies have to go, also making us a lesser team.
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