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Old 02-09-2013, 04:13 PM   #21
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It was effort. And the young money nickname? If you are going to call yourself that back it up.
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:37 PM   #22
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It was effort. And the young money nickname? If you are going to call yourself that back it up.
Wallace started that nickname because he likes Lil Wayne. No big deal.

He can call himself "the Pope" for all I care. I like how Wallace usually celebrates his touchdowns with a teammate or in the stands, and how he often gives footballs to fans in the crowd. I think that literally is just me though.
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:47 PM   #23
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We are better with him than without him IF we dont replace him. Even if we resign him, we still need a red zone wr
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Mike Wallace isn't on the same level as players like Swann, Stallworth or Ward. That's an absurd thing to say this early in his career, but it's no secret that he's a talented, lightning-fast wide receiver and he'll make a LOT of money playing for another team in the NFL very soon.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:30 PM   #25
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Mike Wallace isn't on the same level as players like Swann, Stallworth or Ward. That's an absurd thing to say this early in his career, but it's no secret that he's a talented, lightning-fast wide receiver and he'll make a LOT of money playing for another team in the NFL very soon.
"He's about as exciting as it comes. He gets down field faster than me and Lynn did. As for being the long ball receiver, that's his forte. Swann and I thought we were longball players too, but we couldn't run like that.
"Wallace has potential to get better. That doesn't lessen what he's done, though. He has a lot of talent as a receiver already." --- John Stallworth.

John Stallworth compared himself and Swann to Wallace which is kind of absurd.

In 1978, Swann's best ever statistical season, he finished 8th in receptions, 7th in yards and 2nd in touchdowns. Swann made the HOF by being a big-play receiver... guess who else is a big play wide receiver? There are more than 300 players with more career receptions than Lynn Swann... THREE HUNDRED!!! So please spare me the typical canonization of past players. Swann is a great player in his own right but he is not Jerry Rice or Don Hutson.(Stallworth is 101st in career receptions which is very good for his era).

Wallace absolutely belongs in the conversation of the best Steelers wide receivers. Wallace is 26 years old. The best is yet to come.
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Wallace nor Bowe will be on the Steelers 2013 roster.
If Curtis Brown is our nickel back this year, we are in for trouble
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Wallace absolutely belongs in the conversation of the best Steelers wide receivers. Wallace is 26 years old. The best is yet to come.
if he's with the team another year or more and gets better, I would start putting him in the conversation.
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If Curtis Brown is our nickel back this year, we are in for trouble
I agree that Curtis Brown has not played well outside of special teams and would be a liability in the nickel. Still, Brown could improve.

I think you are right though it would be better to use someone else in the nickel. Maybe Will Allen? Could Sean Spence be groomed for nickel packages? Meaning could he be used to cover a slot receiver in place of a DB?

I don't think Wallace gets re-signed either but you never know. If he does leave I will remember him as one of the Steelers best ever receivers.

Wallace is 7th in touchdowns, 8th in yards, and 11th in receptions for the Steelers all-time... not bad for 4 years in.
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He's a good number 2 at best. Numbers are misleading and anyone basing their entire argument on them is foolish. He's a poor route runner, soft, doesn't fight for the ball, has average hands, regularly disappears and is only "elite" at running in a line. He isn't a number one receiver. He isn't Fitz or either Johnson. Those guys didn't have a guy like Ben throwing them the ball their first few years. Numbers mean shit.
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Wallace had 32 TDs in his first 4 years while Swann had 23, Ward had 15, Stallworth had 14 and Brown had 7 in his first 3.

In my mind, Wallace is one of the best Steelers WRs all-time and I will be extremely disappointed to see him go. Wallace had some key big drops this past season which was out of character for him ( I don't remember anyone complaining about his hands pre-lockout).

I strongly feel that retaining Wallace should have been the FO top priority. For once I would like to see a Steelers WR who has excellent chemistry with Ben to stay on the team after they are finally on the same page. Marvin Harrison played 10 seasons with Manning, Rice played 7 with Montana etc. I'm not saying that ben and Wallace are as good just pointing out how helpful it has been to have continuity for QB / WR combos over the years on other teams.
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I did.

You are comparing Wallace to WRs in the 70's and Ward? Do you understand the flaws in those comparisons?
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