Redskins name change?

[Buddha Bus]

Originally Posted by MACH1

Foreskins

I've been calling them that for years already.

[JeromeBetties63]

Originally Posted by aa14

Many native american "whiners" find it very offensive as it has been used as a derogatory term against them for a long time. I honestly don't know what it's origins are but I grew up in Saskatchewan, Canada and I witnessed a boy fight another boy in school for being called that exact name. He was being bullied and it lit a fuse. It is a sore spot and for you to write them all off as "whiners" is quite frankly ignorant.

No they don't. I lived and worked on a reservation in Arizona. The sports fans there rooted for every team named after Native Americans. It was a source of pride to them. Don't spout or swallow liberal propaganda.

[BleedPurple]

Must be an inside joke

[aa14]

Originally Posted by JeromeBetties63

No they don't. I lived and worked on a reservation in Arizona. The sports fans there rooted for every team named after Native Americans. It was a source of pride to them. Don't spout or swallow liberal propaganda.

You used to work on a reservation in one part of one state of one country in North America. With that experience you know Native American's collective attitude and experience with this particular moniker? That is gold. The boy growing up on the reservation in Arizona isn't going to have the same experience as a girl in an affluent suburb of Salt-lake city. He isn't going to have the same experience as the lone Native American boy that was in my class in the mid 90's. The kid in my class wasn't part of a collective or reservation. There was no exuded Native American pride. He sure as hell wasn't going to show up in a Redskin's coat or jersey or winter hat. I am relatively sure he would have believed that was the worst thing he could've done. I alluded in a previous post this boy's experience was probably not happening often and not the norm. That doesn't mean we should write him and this ten percent off as an outlier or "whiners". "Redskin" was used against him in a hateful way more than a few times. Just because everything is swell where you come from doesn't mean it's swell everywhere. Maybe "Redskin" is rarely used as a slur in most areas of North America but it was used as one where I grew up. The vernacular and lexicon of a population has huge variations with contrasting populations, even in North America. To label my personal experience as "liberal propaganda" is asinine and ignorant. Maybe I'm wrong and no one outside my hometown has been called "Redskin" in a derogatory manner and the 10% really are a bunch of over-sensitive "whiners" but nothing I've said comes from a political agenda. You don't know my political affiliation but everyone now knows the skewed angle you're coming from. Flame-bait political bullshit is incredibly insipid, try something else.

[Fire Arians]

do native americans take offense to the Red Man brand chewing tobacco?

i'm sure african americans would have a problem if someone made a product called black man chicken wings or something lol

who am i to say, but i can see how the name could be considered offensive

[PhantomJB93]

I hate the Redskins but I will be pissed if they change their name. It's been around forever. People are too easily offended. Most of the people who complain about it are just looking for something and anything to complain about and have no actual Native American heritage or reason to feel so strongly toward the name. The Native Americans made up the term to distinguish themselves from whites anyway, it wasn't a derogatory name given to them by others.

[Quackjack]

Hey, Neo-Cons, I'm a Liberal and I support the Redslins name. Don't bring that BS in here.

[ricardisimo]

Originally Posted by Quackjack

*Sigh*

It is inevitable, isn't it?

Then what do you guys suggest changing it to?

Warriors? Pigskins?

"Your Fascist Overlords"

For the record, the time has long passed for these race-based team names. There are no "Honky" teams in the NFL for a reason (several reasons, actually ) and it's time to extrapolate and move along. The Redskins are an embarrassment to themselves and to the league, and a name change might give them a fresh start. That they are the team from the nation's capital - rather than from Oklahoma City - just underscores what a backwards people we really are.

[tony hipchest]

Originally Posted by Fire Arians

do native americans take offense to the Red Man brand chewing tobacco?

i'm sure african americans would have a problem if someone made a product called black man chicken wings or something lol

yeah... probably so.

[MasterOfPuppets]

Originally Posted by ricardisimo

"Your Fascist Overlords"

For the record, the time has long passed for these race-based team names. There are no "Honky" teams in the NFL for a reason (several reasons, actually ) and it's time to extrapolate and move along. The Redskins are an embarrassment to themselves and to the league, and a name change might give them a fresh start. That they are the team from the nation's capital - rather than from Oklahoma City - just underscores what a backwards people we really are.

the name is taken....



how about the washington bribes....
heres a logo...