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Old 05-16-2013, 10:41 AM   #41
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Nate wasn't exactly what one would consider slow. Pretty much we used him as our stretch player, and he did that well. It opened a lot of room for underneath routes for Ward, Miller and El, and not too much different than Wallace did for Holmes, Wallace, Ward and Miller in 2008. As much as we loved the Ben to Holmes plays on their last drive in XLIII, there was a reason Holmes had so much room, and it was wearing #17.

That said, Wheaton should be able to produce at least as well as Nate Wasington in that roll, and may turn out to be a better overall receiver like Holmes, than Wallace, minus the drama.

To the point of the thread, as the OL goes, so does the O. It's a young bunch, and heaven help us if anybody gets hurt, but give them time. They have the potential to become the premier OL in the league. JMO.
I didn't realize #17 was part of the XLIII receiving corp? Perhaps it was #85? :)
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Nate wasn't exactly what one would consider slow. Pretty much we used him as our stretch player, and he did that well. It opened a lot of room for underneath routes for Ward, Miller and El, and not too much different than Wallace did for Holmes, Wallace, Ward and Miller in 2008. As much as we loved the Ben to Holmes plays on their last drive in XLIII, there was a reason Holmes had so much room, and it was wearing #17.
That said, Wheaton should be able to produce at least as well as Nate Wasington in that roll, and may turn out to be a better overall receiver like Holmes, than Wallace, minus the drama.

To the point of the thread, as the OL goes, so does the O. It's a young bunch, and heaven help us if anybody gets hurt, but give them time. They have the potential to become the premier OL in the league. JMO.
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I didn't realize #17 was part of the XLIII receiving corp? Perhaps it was #85? :)
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Holmes and Harrison will alway have special places in Steeler lore, Holmes always was a favorite of mine, and he has been shyt since he was with the Jets.
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Wallace didn't play in 2008? I thought he was a rookie... Crap, talk about an embarrassing situation!! My bad.... I think # 17 might have been our punter....brain fart.... Hey, why let facts get in the way of a good point of view.....
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yep and santonio >>>>>>>>>> wallace. wallace was only a home run threat, santonio was a do everything wr
Lmao a do everything wr. He was horrible at getting separation, disapeared for weeks at a time and had huge crucial drops His so called big year of 09 he was a major factor we didn't make the playoffs. Other then week one he did nothing to help us and had two enormous td drops in games we ended up losing. He had 1 td until the season was over for us. He was far more clutch year one with the jets then he was here. He's exactly the same now for them as he was here and we have never missed him. My favorite day as a steeler fan was he day he was traded to the jets. We should have taken mangold
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Lmao a do everything wr. He was horrible at getting separation, disapeared for weeks at a time and had huge crucial drops His so called big year of 09 he was a major factor we didn't make the playoffs. Other then week one he did nothing to help us and had two enormous td drops in games we ended up losing. He had 1 td until the season was over for us. He was far more clutch year one with the jets then he was here. He's exactly the same now for them as he was here and we have never missed him. My favorite day as a steeler fan was he day he was traded to the jets. We should have taken mangold



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Let me start by saying I've been wrong before. I have the misfortune of living in Northern California and I'm subjected to Raider games so I've seen what Gradkowski has to offer so I applaud drafting Jones because Gradkowski IS an improvement over Batch&Lefty but Gradkowski is a #3 guy not a #2.

I really would like to be surprised about Bell at RB but he wasn't impressive against ranked college teams and that leads me to think the Steelers made a mistake

The Steelers needed a stud TE that would fit into the Haley offense..... They did not get one.

The Steelers look as if they will be slightly improved but hey it could be a great year and that's why we watch
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Lmao a do everything wr. He was horrible at getting separation, disapeared for weeks at a time and had huge crucial drops His so called big year of 09 he was a major factor we didn't make the playoffs. Other then week one he did nothing to help us and had two enormous td drops in games we ended up losing. He had 1 td until the season was over for us. He was far more clutch year one with the jets then he was here. He's exactly the same now for them as he was here and we have never missed him. My favorite day as a steeler fan was he day he was traded to the jets. We should have taken mangold
so he wasn't perfect but let's see. he made a game-winning punt return vs the ravens in the playoffs when the offense wasn't doing jack. super bowl MVP vs the cardinals. He ended the bengals playoff hopes in 2006 which was all kinds of awesome.

santonio had his drops, but for the most part, he was ben's go to guy and clutch. when you needed a big play, santonio was the guy, and he was effective in the short/intermediate passing game, as well as a big play threat. wallace? he was only a big play threat. A good one, but I'd take santonio in his prime ANY DAY over wallace.

Santonio definitely had his hands in more winning efforts in big games than wallace did. you can't deny that
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Lmao a do everything wr. He was horrible at getting separation, disapeared for weeks at a time and had huge crucial drops His so called big year of 09 he was a major factor we didn't make the playoffs. Other then week one he did nothing to help us and had two enormous td drops in games we ended up losing. He had 1 td until the season was over for us. He was far more clutch year one with the jets then he was here. He's exactly the same now for them as he was here and we have never missed him. My favorite day as a steeler fan was he day he was traded to the jets. We should have taken mangold
Dude, he was a monster for the Steelers. He was our only receiver that could get open against the Ravens, who he regularly torched. The Ravens were the happiest team in football the day he left Pittsburgh. That guy made more big plays for this team than Hines did over the last 5 years of his career. I'm not sure what games you were watching, but he was our most dangerous offensive player almost the entire time he was here, and it's not even close.
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