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Old 09-04-2013, 08:41 PM   #71
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is that because you are a scout?
Coach, but that has nothing to do with what I am saying


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big ben should change is throwing mechanics. I'm just not sure which ones
I guess I am suppose to name each scout because I know what goes on in their scouting meets. My bad





Like i said I'll get my rose colored glasses out and say how bright the future is.



Have a good one, must of touched a nerve for some of you.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:45 PM   #72
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Lol! My point exactly.
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:52 PM   #73
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well silly me to say that I think we need a change or 2 in the scouting department voicing my opinion.
Did I say fire the whole department?
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Oh yeah, and the Steelers did change up their scouting department this year anyway.
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Steelers Announce Player Personnel Department Changes
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The Steelers have announced today multiple player personnel department changes.

Phil Kreidler has been named the teamís college scouting coordinator, replacing Ron Hughes, who will be staying with the organization as a senior assistant, college scouting. Kreidler has spent the last 22 years in the Steelersí player personnel department.

The team has also announced that Dave Petett will now be a pro/college scout and Mark Bruener will be a college scout. Additionally, Dan Colbert has been hired full-time as a college/pro scout and Mike Butler has been hired as the teamís BLESTO scout.
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The Pittsburgh Steelers have hired former cornerback Chidi Iwuoma as the teamís BLESTO Scout, it was announced today. The teamís former BLESTO Scout, Mike Butler, will now serve as a college scout.

Iwuoma comes to the Steelers after serving as the Assistant Director of Student-Athlete Development at the University of California from 2010-12. Prior to that, Iwuoma worked in Calís Athletic Study Center from 2009-10, where he assisted student-athletes with a wide range of academic topics.

Iwuoma spent seven seasons as a cornerback in the NFL from 2001-07, and he was a member of the Steelersí Super Bowl XL team.
Yeah...so there you go.
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Coach, but that has nothing to do with what I am saying




I guess I am suppose to name each scout because I know what goes on in their scouting meets. My bad





Like i said I'll get my rose colored glasses out and say how bright the future is.



Have a good one, must of touched a nerve for some of you.
I think the only one that got their never touched is you. You're essentially calling for change because you want change. Not only do you have no legitimate reason for change, but you have no idea what you would even change. You weren't and still aren't prepared for this discussion at all.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:04 PM   #75
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Yeah...so there you go.
changes made in may post draft.

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I think the only one that got their never touched is you. You're essentially calling for change because you want change. Not only do you have no legitimate reason for change, but you have no idea what you would even change. You weren't and still aren't prepared for this discussion at all.
Nope nerves never got bothered. Unlike some people.
I gave reasons. You ignored them. Not my fault. I said what I would change
I guess I was suppose to name the following.(below) Like i said I am not in their meetings nor do I know who is scouting who. So no I cannot pinpoint an exact scout. Shame on me.

Football Operations
Kevin Colbert, General Manager
Omar Khan, Director of Football & Business Administration
Samir Suleiman, Football Administration Coordinator
Ron Hughes, Senior Assistant, College Scouting
Dan Rooney, Player Personnel Coordinator
Brandon Hunt, Pro Personnel Coordinator
Phil Kreidler, College Scouting Coordinator
Mark Gorscak, College Scout
Mike Butler, College Scout
Dan Colbert, College Scout
Mark Bruener, College Scout
Bruce McNorton, College Scout
Dave Petett , College/Pro Scout
Bill Nunn, College Personnel
Chidi Iwuoma, BLESTO Scout
Stephen Meyer, Scouting Intern


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Old 09-04-2013, 09:08 PM   #76
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I think that everyone needs to back off of ebsteelers.

He's a good dude.

He was trying to start a discussion, about improving the drafting that occurs in some rounds of the draft. He knows that the Steelers draft extremely well... and he just wants to tweak it a little so that they go from "extremely good" to "great."

I was one of the first to "disagree" with him (and I still do), but it's getting a little "personal" (for lack of a better word). It feels like we're attacking TAPES18N1 for his love of Nazis. (THAT would warrant such vehement posts). Again, he wants perfection (which is not a reality... but, is a good exercise for debate).
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:11 PM   #77
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yeah man, we would get to 14 wins this season if we just ride dwyer till the wheels fall off, but the front office is stupid
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changes made in may post draft.
Uh, yeah, exactly. So you are railing for changes to the scouting department for future drafts, but it's already happened, and you have yet to see the fruits of the labor of the revamped scouting department. You already got what you asked for and didn't even know it.
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I think that everyone needs to back off of ebsteelers.

He's a good dude.

He was trying to start a discussion, about improving the drafting that occurs in some rounds of the draft. He knows that the Steelers draft extremely well... and he just wants to tweak it a little so that they go from "extremely good" to "great."

I was one of the first to "disagree" with him (and I still do), but it's getting a little "personal" (for lack of a better word). It feels like we're attacking TAPES18N1 for his love of Nazis. (THAT would warrant such vehement posts). Again, he wants perfection (which is not a reality... but, is a good exercise for debate).
This.

Agree or disagree, no reason to get your panties in a bunch. Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders are pretty big testaments to how good our Scouts are, and there's definitely more that I haven't named. No one expects 7th rounders to be anything but projects, and the ones that actually make the team serve yet ANOTHER testament to how good the scouting department is doing. I think Kelvin Beachum will be similar to Da Beard as far as that goes.
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Nope nerves never got bothered. Unlike some people.
I gave reasons. You ignored them. Not my fault. I said what I would change
I guess I was suppose to name the following.(below) Like i said I am not in their meetings nor do I know who is scouting who. So no I cannot pinpoint an exact scout. Shame on me.

Football Operations
Kevin Colbert, General Manager
Omar Khan, Director of Football & Business Administration
Samir Suleiman, Football Administration Coordinator
Ron Hughes, Senior Assistant, College Scouting
Dan Rooney, Player Personnel Coordinator
Brandon Hunt, Pro Personnel Coordinator
Phil Kreidler, College Scouting Coordinator
Mark Gorscak, College Scout
Mike Butler, College Scout
Dan Colbert, College Scout
Mark Bruener, College Scout
Bruce McNorton, College Scout
Dave Petett , College/Pro Scout
Bill Nunn, College Personnel
Chidi Iwuoma, BLESTO Scout
Stephen Meyer, Scouting Intern


16-0 with the best depth in the NFL HERE WE COME!!!

IM DUMB AND EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS IT ALL!!
Listen, I don't necessarily disagree with what you're trying to get at. I just think you're doing a piss poor job of proving your point, and I'm calling you out on it. You can either continue to reflect any disagreement to your opinion, or you can try and actually make sense.

You want to know why Steelers fans are so hated around the league? Because we're spoiled to no end. When we realize that our players aren't championship worthy, we instantly assume they suck. This opinion bleeds into evaluations of other teams players and pisses then off. There is no objectivity in this fan base; it's black and white. You're either good enough to win it all, or you suck ass.
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