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Old 10-13-2013, 03:50 PM   #351
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Ward use to always smile even when he dropped a big time pass.
Thats because on the next play, he would make up for it. Super Bowl XL is a perfect example of that.
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Thats because on the next play, he would make up for it. Super Bowl XL is a perfect example of that.
and Brown's now the #1 guy and he's coming into his own. He's had what 30 catches in the past three games? He should have had that touchdown catch, but to use the fact that he was smiling afterwards to argue that Tomlin is therefore a bad coach is a bit far fetched.
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Old 10-13-2013, 04:01 PM   #353
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For those who have a problem with those who get on Tomlin's case; a player who just dropped a SURE TD pass is sitting on the bench laughing, and smiling as he recounts what happened. I'll bet you won't see a Patriots player laughing after a blown TD catch. That's one thing that's wrong with Tomlin's tenure there; that players have an attitude like that. If there are those who don't like that; well I'm not sorry I said it at all. On a winning team you would have seen the player showing signs of regret and a missed opportunity. I want to see things get to where these guys dread facing Tomlin when they don't perform. Then maybe it'll all catch fire, and we can get things going again. We need to be hungry from the tp on down, and that is Mike's responsibily. Our D and O are both looking better now though.
That makes Cowher a bad coach by that logic, too. Ward had the cheekiest grin of all-time after making key mistakes, and no, he didn't always make up for it. We all loved Ward. If you make a mistake, you can't dwell on it. You have to shake it off and move forward. Brown played a huge part in the win.
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Smiling is not the same as complacency. After making a mistake, some people fidget, some people are angry, some are sad and some smile.
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Boxers smile when they get rocked. Sometimes its involuntary reaction that means, shit, I screwed up. It's how you come back. My only gripe with Brown all year was him falling for no reason. He only did that a couple times. Other then that, I have no complaints. He has been balling. Dropped passes happen, I dont get too angry with those if that happens once in a while.
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Boxers smile when they get rocked. Sometimes its involuntary reaction that means, shit, I screwed up. It's how you come back. My only gripe with Brown all year was him falling for no reason. He only did that a couple times. Other then that, I have no complaints. He has been balling. Dropped passes happen, I dont get too angry with those if that happens once in a while.
At least he isn't pulling a Mike Wallace and dropping 2-3 passes a game.
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At least he isn't pulling a Mike Wallace and dropping 2-3 passes a game.
or not running the routes, or not trying hard, or not blocking for his teammates, or giving a shit, or anything that didnt revolve him. Mike Wallace is the epitome of the modern athlete. Selfish, worthless and useless when it matters.
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Interesting observation on one thing that separates the top coaches from the rest

In a remarkable NFL coaching career that spanned from Kennedy to Clinton, Don Shula managed to lose 156 regular-season games in his record-breaking 33-year run on the sideline. The most telling statistic that illustrates his success and explains his longevity? Only eight times during his memorable multi-decade run did his teams suffer through a losing streak of at least three games, or roughly once every four years on average....

Which brings us to Gary Kubiak. The beleaguered Houston head coach is still in the first half of his eighth season with the Texans. But he's currently working on his ninth career losing streak of at least three games, with two-time defending AFC South champion Houston (2-4) dropping its past four games after a mirage-like 2-0 start to the season....

Lots of head coaches are darn good at what they do when things are going relatively smoothly. But it's the ones who know how to perform triage on their own teams and stop the bleeding before it's too late that last and build legacies. The key to success in the NFL sounds easy enough. You try to make sure a loss is always isolated by a win on each side, keep the two-game slides to a minimum and treat a three-game losing streak like it's a full-blown DEFCON 5 situation, doing whatever is necessary to change the narrative and end the pattern of defeat.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...r_a3&eref=sihp

It may be that one issue with Tomlin is that once the snowball of losing starts down the hill he cannot stop it

2009 was an epic collapse in which all Tomlin could do was promise to unleash hell, followed by the 3 game losing streak at the end of the 2012 season after Ben returned, followed by the 0-4 start to this year.
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