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Old 11-27-2013, 05:27 PM   #1
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Default Honestly... Big Ben > Peyton Manning.

Let's be honest, the Tom Brady v Peyton Manning debate is a laughable debate rehashed every season by ratings-driven morons. On top of that, a lot of sports analysts are ex-athletes, so I think it's fair to say a lot of them just aren't THAT bright. The network guys are (NBC, CBS, Fox, etc) but the ESPN guys are just idiots.

There is no debate here. 10-4 in head to head and 5 SB appearances isn't a rivalry. It's complete domination. Everytime ESPN brings it up now I /facepalm.

So moving on, how about Big Ben vrs. Peyton Manning?

I'm a firm believer that regular season stat-compiling is only a feather in your hat if your hat is woven from post season performances. It isn't in the regular season that you meet the toughest defenses and the toughest teams, and I frankly could care less if all someone can do is look pretty against the Jaguars and the Raiders in September.

If you were building a football franchise, would you take Big Ben over Peyton Manning?

I would.

Here's why:

1. I always thought QBR was sort of stupid and kind of an invention of ESPN, but I'll use it here. Ben's QBR in cold weather games is pretty solid, and the road to NFL championships generally passes through the elements. Peyton is only good if you build him a dome that's built inside a heated biodome.

2. The guy plays with an offensive line made of swiss cheese.
Can you even imagine Peyton Manning playing under center behind the Steelers offensive line? ROFL!

That shit would be hilarious. I think Benny Hill music just picturing it.

3. Big Ben is good at real football. Peyton Manning is good for fantasy football.

4. All of Peyton Manning's teams have been built to surround him with elite offensive weapons and he still sucks when it matters the most. Ben played better in REAL FOOTBALL CONDITIONS his ROOKIE SEASON then Peyton has EVER played in similar conditions, despite all his weapons.

5. Leadership. Peyton Manning's demeanor on the sideline in the face of adversity is honestly worse then Jay Cutler's when he's having his period. Who the hell could ever be inspired to take it to the next level with pouty-face sulking like a baby on the sidelines? Not a huge fan of some of Ben's media antics, but he takes the bull by the horns when the chips are down, or in the very least tries to.

Peyton just mopes around every time someone smacks the silver spoon out of his mouth.

6. Clutch play. Ben's had his ups and downs when it comes to clutch performances, but the ups mostly outweigh the downs.

Peyton on the other hand is the least clutch QB in the history of the NFL, with a post season record that's nothing short of pathetic after 17 weeks of stat-padding against the Jaguars, Texans, Titans, Raiders, Chargers and -before this year- Chiefs.

ESPN would cry about this, but ESPN mostly employees idiotic fools more suited to be MTV VG's then NFL analysts. I would take Ben Roethlisberger over Peyton Manning any day.

Would rather grind out regular season wins in a tough division and have a chance in the tournament than look pretty against AFC South/West scrubs and go down rather pathetically my first post season game.

Ben > Peyton.
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Old 11-27-2013, 05:50 PM   #2
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I'm a firm believer that regular season stat-compiling is only a feather in your hat if your hat is woven from post season performances. It isn't in the regular season that you meet the toughest defenses and the toughest teams, and I frankly could care less if all someone can do is look pretty against the Jaguars and the Raiders in September.
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Old 11-27-2013, 05:58 PM   #3
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Default Re: Honestly... Big Ben > Peyton Manning.

99 times out of 100 that helmet catch doesn't happen you're telling with "the best team of all time" conversations for the rest of your life.

He also has a record 17 post season wins.

Deal with it.
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Old 11-27-2013, 06:04 PM   #4
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Default Re: Honestly... Big Ben > Peyton Manning.

"The greatest team of all time" should have been up 30 on the 10-6 5th seed from the NFC by that point, rendering the helmet catch moot, assuming they weren't just massively overhyped (they were, by the way).

He hasn't won on the biggest stage in nine years and counting and hasn't looked nearly as "invincible" in the postseason (see the last 2 AFCCG's against Moonball Joe Flacco which he was BADLY outplayed in) since his coach got nailed for being the cheating piece of shit that he is and the Commissioner (whose nose would go halfway up Kraft's ass if he ever came to a sudden stop) conveniently swept it under the rug.

Deal with it.
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Old 11-27-2013, 06:16 PM   #5
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55 points.

Deal with it.
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Default Re: Honestly... Big Ben > Peyton Manning.

Poor PATS16N0 came in with a peace pipe, and he got bashed over the head with it.



I guess some Steeler fans aren't too happy with some of your previous posts, and they don't care about or trust your reasons for posting Pro-Big Ben commentary.

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I guess some Steeler fans aren't too happy with some of your previous posts, and they don't care about or trust your reasons for posting Pro-Big Ben commentary.
The only reason he posted that bullshit diatribe was to "subtly" gloat over the game Sunday night and indulge himself in more Brady ballwashing. He really couldn't have been more transparent about it.

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99 times out of 100 that helmet catch doesn't happen you're telling with "the best team of all time" conversations for the rest of your life.

He also has a record 17 post season wins.

Deal with it.
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