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Old 01-14-2014, 12:36 PM   #21
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However, those guys had to wait 13, 25, 31, 25, and 19 years to get in, respectively.
But they did get in.
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Old 01-14-2014, 12:40 PM   #22
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10- under 4.0 yards a carry.
This is the one that jumped out to me the most. You're right - he didn't have a 4.0 YPC... he had a 3.9. Isn't that a lot like splitting hairs?
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This is the one that jumped out to me the most. You're right - he didn't have a 4.0 YPC... he had a 3.9. Isn't that a lot like splitting hairs?
Actually, according to the ProFootballHOF website, he was at 4.0 after all:

http://www.profootballhof.com/histor...0/rushers.aspx


Dammit! I told myself I wouldn't entertain the stat argument.
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This is the one that jumped out to me the most. You're right - he didn't have a 4.0 YPC... he had a 3.9. Isn't that a lot like splitting hairs?
thats not bad vs 8-9 men in the box on just about every single rushing down of his career...
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hes in cause of this

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He'll get in cause he dropped that don don don on Urlacher
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Default Re: Again...Bettis NOT a Hall Of Famer

He just may be the best closer in the NFL over the course of his career. How many times did the Steelers have a lead with anywhere from 2-7 minutes left in the game, and Bettis would impose his will and grind out the clock to secure victory. That in itself is an amazing accomplishment, and the Steelers record with a lead in the fourth quarter while The Bus was the starting RB is astounding.

That's not necessarily a stat, but it sure as shit defines how this man got it done on the field, when everyone knew he was going to get the ball. There have been a ton of running backs that can make runs and gains yards when the offense is balanced, or when the offensive line is dominating. Not many can make something out of nothing. How many times did you see Jerome Bettis being met in the hole by a linebacker at the line of scrimmage, only to see him push the pile for two or three yards. Or turn what would be a 3-4 yard gain for almost any other back into an 8-10 yard gain on power and sheer force of will.

In his prime, if you had a third or fourth down and had to gain one or two yards to gain with everything on the line, there's not another back I'd take ahead of him.

That's how I'll remember The Bus. He's a HOF running back.
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:10 PM   #28
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All the hall of fames have become a headache. If you have to ask if someone is a hall of famer, he isnt a damn hall of famer. Hall of Fame is suppose to be the iconic players. No the almost great.
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I don't give a damn, if you get 13K+ yards at 260+ pounds, you're a HOF'er. If it wasn't an "exclusive" feat others wouldve done it.
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I agree with you on some level, Jerome Bettis was definitely just not on the same level as some of the backs you listed, but at the same time I don't see how you can have guys like Shannon Sharpe, Cris Carter, and Marshall Faulk make the hall in recent years and not include The Bus. All of those guys fit the "very good but not all-time great" argument you provided.

If the Hall was a exclusive as you seem to want it to be, I would agree, but clearly in recent years it has taken a turn towards "The Hall of Very Good" and it would just seem like a double-standard to me to exclude Bettis for the reasons you listed when there have clearly been some others who have made it recently with the same criticisms.

Not to mention Bettis was an extremely unique player and redefined how we view "power backs"...all stats and awards aside that has to count for something too. Yes there were other "big backs" but none who racked up the stats and had the endurance that Bettis did.
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