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Old 01-15-2014, 12:07 AM   #11
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gonna have to wait for more details on this one....but it sounds like mr texty escalated the incident with his yap... i know my old man wasn't one to take shit from nobody and had a short fuse , especially as he got older. i could see him reacting the same way in the same situation.
no disrespect to your father, but if the old man cannot control his temper then maybe he should have been euthanized like a dog.

or at the very least been chained up and not let outside of the yard where normal people walk
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Old 01-15-2014, 12:34 AM   #12
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As a moviegoer I'll be the first to complain about the idiots that bring their phones into movies, the dumbasses that are texting or talking throughout the movie, the people who sit right on top of you when the theater is nearly empty, the people who think the theater is a romantic venue to have sex in, the people who think the theater is a good place to toke it up, the 7ft tall idiots that sit in front of you and block your view, parents that drop off their obnoxious and loud teens at Rated R movies, etc...

I worked as a Concessionist at a movie theater in high school, and I've always been a moviegoer. Movies to me are a sacred experience and it sincerely pisses me off, even more so nowadays, that people feel the need to try and ruin the experience for everyone else when everyone pays at least $10.00 (sometimes more) to get into the theater to watch a movie. They literally show adverts prior to the start of every movie telling people to shut their damned phones off, and not to talk or text and yet there's always some bumbling idiot or idiots that think they are the exception to the rule.

Having dealt with all types and having been in numerous theater confrontations myself I've never once thought about brandishing my concealed carry firearm and shooting the other person. This man's actions are despicable to say the very least, and he should spend the rest of his life in prison or on death row as a result of his actions.

One thing that irks me though is that news outlets keep pointing out he is a "Retired Police Captain". The dude retired in 1993. That's 21 years ago. A lot can change in a person in a couple of years time more or less 21 years. To me his retired title from 21 years ago has no bearing on his actions in the theater and it only serves to open the door for generalized criticism of law enforcement by members of the general public who hate law enforcement to begin with. The media will literally say anything to put law enforcement into a negative light. The good hard working, men and women of law enforcement don't deserve to be thrown in with this likes of this man and the detestable act he committed against a young man over a minor dispute.
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As a moviegoer I'll be the first to complain about the idiots that bring their phones into movies, the dumbasses that are texting or talking throughout the movie, the people who sit right on top of you when the theater is nearly empty, the people who think the theater is a romantic venue to have sex in, the people who think the theater is a good place to toke it up, the 7ft tall idiots that sit in front of you and block your view, parents that drop off their obnoxious and loud teens at Rated R movies, etc...

I worked as a Concessionist at a movie theater in high school, and I've always been a moviegoer. Movies to me are a sacred experience and it sincerely pisses me off, even more so nowadays, that people feel the need to try and ruin the experience for everyone else when everyone pays at least $10.00 (sometimes more) to get into the theater to watch a movie. They literally show adverts prior to the start of every movie telling people to shut their damned phones off, and not to talk or text and yet there's always some bumbling idiot or idiots that think they are the exception to the rule.

Having dealt with all types and having been in numerous theater confrontations myself I've never once thought about brandishing my concealed carry firearm and shooting the other person. This man's actions are despicable to say the very least, and he should spend the rest of his life in prison or on death row as a result of his actions.

One thing that irks me though is that news outlets keep pointing out he is a "Retired Police Captain". The dude retired in 1993. That's 21 years ago. A lot can change in a person in a couple of years time more or less 21 years. To me his retired title from 21 years ago has no bearing on his actions in the theater and it only serves to open the door for generalized criticism of law enforcement by members of the general public who hate law enforcement to begin with. The media will literally say anything to put law enforcement into a negative light. The good hard working, men and women of law enforcement don't deserve to be thrown in with this likes of this man and the detestable act he committed against a young man over a minor dispute.
I agree with most of your post, but the part where his past law enforcement employment being too much, I don't. It's relevant because he should know better having come from that background. I don't think it's an indictment of law enforcement as a whole, just him. There's no excuse for letting this type of thing spiral out of control like that, especially if you have ever worked in law enforcement. They should have a better understanding of how to diffuse such issues, not escalate them.

It's possible his past law enforcement career was only added as background also. You'll see a lot of descriptive things like that added to these types of stories to give you more information on the parties involved. I don't think it was to make law enforcement look bad.

Shame on this guy for orphaning a child over something so insignificant regardless of what field he did or does work in.
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I agree with most of your post, but the part where his past law enforcement employment being too much, I don't. It's relevant because he should know better having come from that background. I don't think it's an indictment of law enforcement as a whole, just him. There's no excuse for letting this type of thing spiral out of control like that, especially if you have ever worked in law enforcement. They should have a better understanding of how to diffuse such issues, not escalate them.

It's possible his past law enforcement career was only added as background also. You'll see a lot of descriptive things like that added to these types of stories to give you more information on the parties involved. I don't think it was to make law enforcement look bad.

Shame on this guy for orphaning a child over something so insignificant regardless of what field he did or does work in.
He should have known better but the guy is 71 years old so 21 years after retiring he could be a completely different person now than he was then and judging from what I've read about his police career he was a pretty damned decent police officer. It just amazes me that this guy could do something so senseless but I have to imagine that there's some type of mental degradation going on that lead to this.

The guy that was texting was obviously being a punk but he didn't deserve to die for his actions... just a tragic, traumatic event and the real victims are the wife who took a bullet through the hand, and the little girl who no longer has a Father. Senseless really is the best word to describe this event.
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no disrespect to your father, but if the old man cannot control his temper then maybe he should have been euthanized like a dog.

or at the very least been chained up and not let outside of the yard where normal people walk
the famous words after a dog bites someone by the dogs owner is ...." well he's never bit anyone before. ". people are even less predictable than dogs. you never know what a persons capable of in the heat of the moment. i had a former classmate shot and killed by a 74 year old man over a property line dispute just last year. i doubt anyone that knew the old man woulda thought him capable of murder over something so trivial. pissed off people make bad decisions. unfortunately there's no do overs and you have to live with regret.
i'm certainly not gonna defend the old guy. he coulda just left and asked for a refund when he got apparently no response from the theater staff about the complaint. which they should have addressed it immediately .OR mr texty could've shown the old guy a bit of respect and followed the rules of the cinema. according to the last article i posted an eyewitness said the old guy asked him SEVERAL times to stop. then to further antagonize the old man he runs his yap when the guy comes back and throws shit at him ? what the hell happened to the concept of respecting your elders ?
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the famous words after a dog bites someone by the dogs owner is ...." well he's never bit anyone before. ". people are even less predictable than dogs. you never know what a persons capable of in the heat of the moment. i had a former classmate shot and killed by a 74 year old man over a property line dispute just last year. i doubt anyone that knew the old man woulda thought him capable of murder over something so trivial. pissed off people make bad decisions. unfortunately there's no do overs and you have to live with regret.
i'm certainly not gonna defend the old guy. he coulda just left and asked for a refund when he got apparently no response from the theater staff about the complaint. which they should have addressed it immediately .OR mr texty could've shown the old guy a bit of respect and followed the rules of the cinema. according to the last article i posted an eyewitness said the old guy asked him SEVERAL times to stop. then to further antagonize the old man he runs his yap when the guy comes back and throws shit at him ? what the hell happened to the concept of respecting your elders ?
Shitty situation all around. Definitely shouldn't have gone so far as to shoot the guy but I agree had the guy just followed the rules or listened to the older guy perhaps he might still be alive. Hindsight is always 20/20 however, and even though he was texting that will never justify murder. I read somewhere that the older gentleman (the shooter) had gone out to the lobby at one point during the dispute so I'm curious as to whether or not he complained to the theater staff and they just turned a blind eye to all of it? I know when I got complaints at the theater I went right in and told people to knock their shit off. Constantly had to tell people to stay off their phones, not to talk, and to stop putting their feet on the damn chairs. I'd be interested to hear what transpired when he was out in the lobby.
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Shitty situation all around. Definitely shouldn't have gone so far as to shoot the guy but I agree had the guy just followed the rules or listened to the older guy perhaps he might still be alive. Hindsight is always 20/20 however, and even though he was texting that will never justify murder. I read somewhere that the older gentleman (the shooter) had gone out to the lobby at one point during the dispute so I'm curious as to whether or not he complained to the theater staff and they just turned a blind eye to all of it? I know when I got complaints at the theater I went right in and told people to knock their shit off. Constantly had to tell people to stay off their phones, not to talk, and to stop putting their feet on the damn chairs. I'd be interested to hear what transpired when he was out in the lobby.
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Did you ever have to run Galax out of a porn theater?
I didn't know it was Galax at the time but I made the connection when I saw the picture of the "Swiss Cheese Pervert" that the Philadelphia Police are looking for. Customers kept accusing him of peter gazing, and said that he was making them uncomfortable with all of his heavy breathing, and the staring.
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I didn't know it was Galax at the time but I made the connection when I saw the picture of the "Swiss Cheese Pervert" that the Philadelphia Police are looking for. Customers kept accusing him of peter gazing, and said that he was making them uncomfortable with all of his heavy breathing, and the staring.
Not to mention all of the patronizing of the clientele.
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