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Old 01-16-2014, 11:24 AM   #21
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Default Re: Former head coach Cowher: Steelers tried stealing signals, too

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Guys, this happened over ten years ago. It's no longer news. Nothing much good happens when you repeatedly pick at a scab.

We've all said what needs to be said about it, and any additional comment will not change the outcome of those two games, nor will it change anybody's opinion of what did or did not happen, or their feelings on the subject.
Cowher was the one that picked at it by playing the everyone does it card this week - coaches as successful as Cowher did not get that way from backing down and IMO The Jaw is doubling down on why he decided (or knew it was prudent?) not to ask Belichick about Spygate in this past Sunday's interview (on which Boomer Esiason immediately called him) and continuing to maintain Belichick is the greatest coach of all time (hard to maintain that position if the guy was a serial cheater, unlike other candidates for that title)
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Old 01-16-2014, 11:24 AM   #22
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Here is an analogy that works.

Bill Cowher admits that he has driven a white Bronco above the speed limit.

So, he's essentially the same as OJ... right?
that was AC Cowlings, I don't know if he was speeding and OJ was found not guilty...so terrible analogy!


Bottom line, the Pats cheated. We don't know how often or for how long. Goodell destroyed the evidence for some unknown reason and hasn't had to really answer for it. Because of that, the patriots super bowls will always be tainted.

The oilers in 1979 stole the chargers signals and picked off Fouts 5 times in the playoffs. Although kind of slimy, that's gamesmanship and opposing teams have to account for that. I mean there are all these code names in plays for this very reason. Ben isn't going to the line of scrimmage saying, fake handoff to bell! fake handoff to Bell, pass to brown on a go route! set hike! But you shouldn't have to hire a security team during a practice to make sure some freak isn't hiding in the bushes filming all of your plays that they are practicing against you.

The AFC and the superbowl NFC teams got screwed over (perhaps) because the patriots decided to act like total slimeballs in a win at all costs mentality that went above and beyond playing the game. I think its fine that 10 years later people are still talking about it and putting up an asterisk next to those "championships". While we're at it, put one next to the broncos 2 championships and the 49ers 1994 title for cheating the salary cap.

just my 2 cents.
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While we're at it, put one next to the broncos 2 championships and the 49ers 1994 title for cheating the salary cap.
Excellent, excellent point.

Two of the most under covered/discussed NFL transgressions of the last 20 years.
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that was AC Cowlings, I don't know if he was speeding and OJ was found not guilty...so terrible analogy!


Bottom line, the Pats cheated. We don't know how often or for how long. Goodell destroyed the evidence for some unknown reason and hasn't had to really answer for it. Because of that, the patriots super bowls will always be tainted.

The oilers in 1979 stole the chargers signals and picked off Fouts 5 times in the playoffs. Although kind of slimy, that's gamesmanship and opposing teams have to account for that. I mean there are all these code names in plays for this very reason. Ben isn't going to the line of scrimmage saying, fake handoff to bell! fake handoff to Bell, pass to brown on a go route! set hike! But you shouldn't have to hire a security team during a practice to make sure some freak isn't hiding in the bushes filming all of your plays that they are practicing against you.

The AFC and the superbowl NFC teams got screwed over (perhaps) because the patriots decided to act like total slimeballs in a win at all costs mentality that went above and beyond playing the game. I think its fine that 10 years later people are still talking about it and putting up an asterisk next to those "championships". While we're at it, put one next to the broncos 2 championships and the 49ers 1994 title for cheating the salary cap.

just my 2 cents.
Great call - DeBartolo being one of the final 15 finalists for the HOF given Goodell's contention protecting The Shield extends to both on and off the field conduct (in addition to gaming the salary cap Eddie D is a convicted felon) is amazing
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that was AC Cowlings, I don't know if he was speeding and OJ was found not guilty...so terrible analogy!
Eh... the point is the same: everyone is comparing a minor offense (stealing signals, speeding) with a major offense (taping walkthroughs, murder).

The two infractions are not the same.

Sure, Cowher tried to steal signals. So did every other coach. But, they did not tape other teams' walkthroughs.

btw... in defense of my analogy: the Taperiots, like OJ, got away with their transgressions: the Taperiots only received a minor slap on the wrist, but were not punished accordingly for taping the walkthroughs. OJ was only forced (civil court) to pay some money, but did not go to jail for murder.
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Great call - DeBartolo being one of the final 15 finalists for the HOF given Goodell's contention protecting The Shield extends to both on and off the field conduct (in addition to gaming the salary cap Eddie D is a convicted felon) is amazing
I vividly recall watching the locker room coverage after the Niners first SB win back in '82 and my mother remarking that DeBartolo looked like a Mafioso.
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Default Re: Former head coach Cowher: Steelers tried stealing signals, too

Why is Cowher on a crusade to justify an illegal act by Bill B. by fundamentally making himself look guilty (to an extent) ? What could he possibly stand to gain ? I never saw Bill B. praising any Steelers coaches. Wish they would ask Hines Ward (and many others) the same question. Time for Cowher to drop this subject...
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Pittsburgh Signal Steelers???

Say it ain't so, Bill!
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0 super bowl wins since spygate

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I vividly recall watching the locker room coverage after the Niners first SB win back in '82 and my mother remarking that DeBartolo looked like a Mafioso.
Having a separate section of your Wikipedia bio devoted to "Legal Troubles" is never a good thing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_J._DeBartolo,_Jr.
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