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Old 01-23-2014, 10:22 AM   #131
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Default Re: Tom Brady = choker. Cant win the big game

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I know that, but that has nothing to do with the "manning only loses to Super Bowl winners....and the chargers" comment being incorrect. I didn't bring it up to someway venerate the patriots or Tom Brady...
Okay... true.

But, it means that Peyton and Brady "choked" against the same team. So, going back to my main point of this entire thread: if we are going to call Peyton a choker, then we have to call Brady a choker, as well.

Right?
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here is a list of the Chokers playoff victories since his last superbowl win i.e. the end of the "Spygate" era, and the qb's he went up against-

2006 Won Wild Card Playoffs (Jets) 3716 chad pennington
2006 Won Divisional Playoffs (Chargers) 2421 philip rivers 1st year starter
2007 Won Divisional Playoffs (Jaguars) 3120 david gerrard 1st year starter
2007 Won Conference Championship (Chargers) 2112 philip rivers 2nd year starter
2011 Won Divisional Playoffs (Broncos) 4510 tim tebow. 1st year... dont know if you can actually call him a "starter" qb w/o insulting every other qb to start a game.
2011 Won Conference Championship (Ravens) 2320 joe flacco grossly outplayed the choker 2 years in a row and actually won a SB
2012 Won Divisional Playoffs (Texans) 4128 TJ Yates- 1st year starter has only started 6 games in his career
2013 Won Divisional Playoffs (Colts) 43-22 andrew luck- 2nd year starter
This is an interesting point of discussion/dissection.

If we did break down each QB's playoff victories vs. competition, what would that show? Fascinating thought.

We'd need someone with access to DVOA to go back and pull the AV of each QB and DVOA of their team since... 2001?

Where's Bill Barnwell when you need him?
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2006 Won Divisional Playoffs (Chargers) 24–21 philip rivers 1st year starter
2007 Won Conference Championship (Chargers) 21–12 philip rivers 2nd year starter
2006: Marlon McCree has the game in his hands (literally). He intercepted a Brady pass... and foolishly ran with the ball... and fumbled it right back to them. The Taperiots kicked the game-winning FG.

2007: LaDainian was out (knee), and Rivers couldn't even walk (knee).
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Okay... true.

But, it means that Peyton and Brady "choked" against the same team. So, going back to my main point of this entire thread: if we are going to call Peyton a choker, then we have to call Brady a choker, as well.

Right?
I think based on the evidence brought up in this thread if one calls Manning a choker they have to call post 04 Brady one too
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I think based on the evidence brought up in this thread if one calls Manning a choker they have to call post 04 Brady one too
Exactly.

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