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Old 02-16-2014, 03:31 PM   #21
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Just admit you're trying to be a devils advocate.
Actually, I'm not. The Steeler way of the past I am referring to was successful for a longer period of time than the current model. Yes since Tomlin arrived we have been 1-1 in Super Bowls. But without some heroics from Harrison and Holmes, SB43 could have easily been a loss and we'd be 0-2 with our arrow pointed down since 2011.I attribute the Super Bowls of recent memory more part of the former model than the corrent. I'm for the team building for long term success versus a win-now mentality that seems to have been the model since 2009. With that, let's clean house versus have overpaid players play on mediocre teams delaying the inevitable.
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Old 02-16-2014, 03:50 PM   #22
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Actually, I'm not. The Steeler way of the past I am referring to was successful for a longer period of time than the current model. Yes since Tomlin arrived we have been 1-1 in Super Bowls. But without some heroics from Harrison and Holmes, SB43 could have easily been a loss and we'd be 0-2 with our arrow pointed down since 2011.I attribute the Super Bowls of recent memory more part of the former model than the corrent. I'm for the team building for long term success versus a win-now mentality that seems to have been the model since 2009. With that, let's clean house versus have overpaid players play on mediocre teams delaying the inevitable.
How was it more successful? It didn't win anything. You're bordering on moronic status.
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Old 02-16-2014, 04:29 PM   #23
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How was it more successful? It didn't win anything. You're bordering on moronic status.
What do you mean it didn't win anything? During the Cowher era the Steelers were in the playoffs 10 out of 14 seasons, 5 AFCC appearances, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Trophy. Plus, he passed the torch to Tomlin which set up another Trophy. Can you see another 17 years of similar success ahead?
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What do you mean it didn't win anything? During the Cowher era the Steelers were in the playoffs 10 out of 14 seasons, 5 AFCC appearances, 2 Super Bowls, 1 Trophy. Plus, he passed the torch to Tomlin which set up another Trophy. Can you see another 17 years of similar success ahead?
Your "Steeper Way" didn't win a super bowl. We were a consistent disappointment in the playoffs before Ben got here, aka a franchise qb. Regardless of what he was being paid at the time when he win the first SB, he was still a franchise QB. What you are proposing is getting a new QB every four or five years and trying to win a ring while he's on his rookie contract. Do you not see how insanely dumb that sounds? You are advocating for a professional football team to be run like a college program, where we constantly recycle players every four or five years. Its moronic and a great way to piss off your entire fan base, ya know, the ones who go to the games and pay you a shit ton of money. Once the fans stop coming to the games, you stop having money to even pay the players that you actually do want to keep.

Your method of running a team is fucking retarded. Sorry for being blunt about it, but its true.
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Old 02-16-2014, 05:25 PM   #25
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Your "Steeper Way" didn't win a super bowl. We were a consistent disappointment in the playoffs before Ben got here, aka a franchise qb. Regardless of what he was being paid at the time when he win the first SB, he was still a franchise QB. What you are proposing is getting a new QB every four or five years and trying to win a ring while he's on his rookie contract. Do you not see how insanely dumb that sounds? You are advocating for a professional football team to be run like a college program, where we constantly recycle players every four or five years. Its moronic and a great way to piss off your entire fan base, ya know, the ones who go to the games and pay you a shit ton of money. Once the fans stop coming to the games, you stop having money to even pay the players that you actually do want to keep.

Your method of running a team is fucking retarded. Sorry for being blunt about it, but its true.
Uh, did you even bother reading my post? I mentioned multiple AFCC's and XXX, XL, and XLIII as part of the Steeler way.
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Old 02-16-2014, 05:27 PM   #26
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Actually, I'm not. The Steeler way of the past I am referring to was successful for a longer period of time than the current model. Yes since Tomlin arrived we have been 1-1 in Super Bowls. But without some heroics from Harrison and Holmes, SB43 could have easily been a loss and we'd be 0-2 with our arrow pointed down since 2011.I attribute the Super Bowls of recent memory more part of the former model than the corrent. I'm for the team building for long term success versus a win-now mentality that seems to have been the model since 2009. With that, let's clean house versus have overpaid players play on mediocre teams delaying the inevitable.
and a few heroics here and there. and a miss play here and there and we could of been 2-0 in super bowls under tomlin
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Uh, did you even bother reading my post? I mentioned multiple AFCC's and XXX, XL, and XLIII as part of the Steeler way.
Then what the hell are you arguing? You're all over the place. Seems like youre trying to compare 2011-2013 to 1991-2011. I don't think I should have to tell you why thats reall, really dumb.
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and a few heroics here and there. and a miss play here and there and we could of been 2-0 in super bowls under tomlin
The same could be said for Cowher's loss to Dallas and Kordell's AFCC blunders. Catch a few breaks and history is different for everyone.
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Then what the hell are you arguing? You're all over the place. Seems like youre trying to compare 2011-2013 to 1991-2011. I don't think I should have to tell you why thats reall, really dumb.
Let me ask you a question. If we sign Ben for Flacco money and the team averages between 7-9 wins and no Super Bowls over the next few years would that be worth it to you?
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You only post "what if " scenarios if it suits your view. Cowhers years produced one (1) SB win and one (1) SB loss in what 15 seasons. But that is more successful than the same record put up by Tomlins team in 8 seasons. I dont know how old you are but I for one was more frustrated during the Cowher years than now, I mean we could get to the AFC title game and we were better nearly every time and yet we came up short. I may change my tune if we do not improve but I learned patience from those years.
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