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Old 02-19-2014, 10:19 PM   #11
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Yes. Yes, it was.

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Old 02-20-2014, 10:37 AM   #12
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Fury's listing, heading into 2014 (top 10 btw)

1. P. Manning
2. Brady
3. Brees
4. Roethlisberger
5. Rogers
6. E. Manning
8. Wilson
9. Kaep
10. Flacco

I'm sorry - you had to have at least won or lost a SB to be considered for top 10. You have to either be the final piece to a conference or world championship puzzle

To those fans that understand that winning is the only thing that matters. You may be surprised to see Flacco on this list - but he is at least good enough to get hot and help take his team on a run (which he did and very well could again - can't deny SB runs) The stage is not too big for him.

The stage IS too big (as of now) for (in order of biggest flame out) Andy Dalton, Matt Ryan, and Philip Rivers. It was actually hard keeping Phillip Rivers out of the 10 spot - but he hasn't made it to the big game yet with some serious weapons around him (even though ownership has done a nice job of mucking up his chances)

Most important thing to consider for these top QB lists - not making mistakes on the big stage is not being a game manager (a title I despise) - you are a piece of a championship puzzle and without your championship caliber QB play - the team couldn't get it done. If you would ask me who was a top 10 QB going into 2001 - Trent Dilfer would have been on my list (even if it wouldn't have been for very long)
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Old 02-20-2014, 10:52 AM   #13
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Soo... trade Roethlisberger?
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Winning big will not earn a team two wins, nor will winning ugly give a team only half a win.
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Soo... trade Roethlisberger?
Who'd want him???

You have to have two to tango... and no GM in his right mind would trade for BB.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:41 PM   #15
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Fury's listing, heading into 2014 (top 10 btw)

1. P. Manning
2. Brady
3. Brees
4. Roethlisberger
5. Rogers
6. E. Manning
8. Wilson
9. Kaep
10. Flacco
Eli #6 and above Wilson... that's a joke, right?

If so, good one!
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:23 PM   #16
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B/R NFL 1000: Top 34 Centers

27. Fernando Velasco, Pittsburgh Steelers

Pass Block 38/50

The Pittsburgh Steelers lost starter Maurkice Pouncey during Week 1 of the 2013 season. Fernando Velasco (6’4”, 312 lbs, four seasons) was a late veteran addition who solidified the position. Velasco is an average athlete who was an effective but limited pass protector. He showed good technique and excellent awareness that somewhat offset his heavier feet.

Run Block 32/50

Velasco can get from one point of the field to the other relatively quickly, and he keeps his legs moving through contact on the line of scrimmage. However, his below-par athleticism curtailed his impact in 2013. Velasco struggled to handle bigger defensive linemen inside and didn’t consistently locate defenders in space.

Overall 70/100

For a late veteran addition, Velasco gave the Steelers more than they expected. However, he wasn’t even an average starter.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...centers/page/9

-- People want this guy above Pouncey. Silly.

B/R NFL 1000: Top 35 Right Tackles

23. Marcus Gilbert, Pittsburgh Steelers

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Marcus Gilbert (6’6”, 330 lbs, three seasons) is a physically gifted player who still hasn’t quite put it all together. He moves laterally as well as any right tackle in the NFL, but sometimes that can be a disadvantage. He’ll slide too quickly to the outside to meet a speed rusher, who will then counter back to the inside. Gilbert needs to trust his hands and feet in meeting speed rushers to the edge instead of trying to beat them to the spot.

Run Block 31/50

Gilbert will overrun blocks out in space and struggle to find a consistent landing point when asked to meet defenders at the second level. He has the foot speed that allows him to break down before engaging with defenders, but he will too often overrun his assignment and be easily avoided or shed by the defender. He’s not overly physical when engaged, but he has the athleticism that should allow him to develop a better ability to seal lanes by getting his feet set in the right position.

Overall 63/100

Gilbert has the potential to skyrocket in these rankings next season. He doesn’t have to become a mauling right tackle; that’s just not how he’s built. He has exceptional athleticism and needs to find ways to display that. He can start by trusting his ability to push speed rushers up the field and not leave himself susceptible to the counter back to the inside. He also needs to improve his ability to break down before engaging out in space in the running game.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ackles/page/14

-- Gilbert had a better season than most will like to admit. He has the potential to be the best Tackle on this team next season.
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Who are the nine ahead of BR7? (Too busy working to check right meow)

That ranking seems about right with the influx of youth in the league (Kaep, Wilson, Luck...), but just curious.
You cant put Kap in there with a completion % below 57! I don't care if they win because it takes 53 to win...
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Fury's listing, heading into 2014 (top 10 btw)

1. P. Manning not any more
2. Brady Still holds his with no good WRs
3. Brees I can buy this
4. Roethlisberger Good spot
5. Rogers
6. E. Manning In playoffs yes, regular season, no. Move everyone else up 1 and put someone else at 10...
8. Wilson
9. Kaep
10. Flacco WTF is this sh!#bag doing here? Never!!!
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Fury's listing, heading into 2014 (top 10 btw)

1. P. Manning
2. Brady
3. Brees
4. Roethlisberger
5. Rogers
6. E. Manning
8. Wilson
9. Kaep
10. Flacco

I'm sorry - you had to have at least won or lost a SB to be considered for top 10. You have to either be the final piece to a conference or world championship puzzle

To those fans that understand that winning is the only thing that matters. You may be surprised to see Flacco on this list - but he is at least good enough to get hot and help take his team on a run (which he did and very well could again - can't deny SB runs) The stage is not too big for him.

The stage IS too big (as of now) for (in order of biggest flame out) Andy Dalton, Matt Ryan, and Philip Rivers. It was actually hard keeping Phillip Rivers out of the 10 spot - but he hasn't made it to the big game yet with some serious weapons around him (even though ownership has done a nice job of mucking up his chances)

Most important thing to consider for these top QB lists - not making mistakes on the big stage is not being a game manager (a title I despise) - you are a piece of a championship puzzle and without your championship caliber QB play - the team couldn't get it done. If you would ask me who was a top 10 QB going into 2001 - Trent Dilfer would have been on my list (even if it wouldn't have been for very long)
I don't dislike your list (other than maybe Flacco ), but if that's your criteria Dan Marino wouldn't have been in your top ten when he played. Conversely, guys like Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer would have been in the conversation. Just sayin'.

EDIT: Whoops! Just realized you said "won or lost a Super Bowl". I guess Marino sneaks in at #10.
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If we're being honest, Rodgers has no business being behind Ben.
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