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Old 02-20-2014, 11:34 AM   #11
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9 different teams in 14 seasons. No back to back titles. Baseball's "competitive advantage" is a fallacy. As a matter of fact, since the Yankees started buying players, they havent been as successful as they were in the late 90s. And Boston sold off all their high priced guys to the Dodgers two years ago and they won the title this year.

I am a big supporter of the free market. I also do not like not having the chance at building a long sustaining dynasty when you have that once in a lifetime chance.
I'm talking free agents signings. How many free agents would go to Jacksonville if they didn't have the chance to build a competitive team if the "powerhouses" like us, New England, Green Bay, etc. kept on signing players willy nilly without any restrictions? The MLB has some of the absolute worst rosters in professional sports because teams will sign with competitive franchises. I'm not just talking about Super Bowl wins here, either. There are teams in the MLB (the Jays come to mind) who haven't made the playoffs in now a decade.

The MLB has absolutely 0 parity. None. The bottom feeders will continue to be bottom feeders. The exact same thing would happen with the NFL.
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:42 AM   #12
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2000-Yankees
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2006-Cardinals
2007-Red Sox
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9 different teams in 14 seasons. No back to back titles. Baseball's "competitive advantage" is a fallacy. As a matter of fact, since the Yankees started buying players, they havent been as successful as they were in the late 90s. And Boston sold off all their high priced guys to the Dodgers two years ago and they won the title this year.

I am a big supporter of the free market. I also do not like not having the chance at building a long sustaining dynasty when you have that once in a lifetime chance.
Sell that to the KC baseball fan population. And your list starts right at the end of a 4/5 run by the Yankees.
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:44 AM   #13
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I'm talking free agents signings. How many free agents would go to Jacksonville if they didn't have the chance to build a competitive team if the "powerhouses" like us, New England, Green Bay, etc. kept on signing players willy nilly without any restrictions? The MLB has some of the absolute worst rosters in professional sports because teams will sign with competitive franchises. I'm not just talking about Super Bowl wins here, either. There are teams in the MLB (the Jays come to mind) who haven't made the playoffs in now a decade.

The MLB has absolutely 0 parity. None. The bottom feeders will continue to be bottom feeders. The exact same thing would happen with the NFL.
Steelers would be competitive. This is the NFL, it isnt like baseball. Non-guaranteed contracts help out tremendously as well. The NFL didnt have a cap for a year just a few years ago. I cant remember if it was for two years either, but no one over spent. As a matter of fact, a lot of teams spent way less like Tampa and Carolina.
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Owners started spending on credit like they always do when they know they're going to hike it.
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Sell that to the KC baseball fan population. And your list starts right at the end of a 4/5 run by the Yankees.
Every league has shitty teams no matter what. The Clowns, the Bills, they both have made the playoffs a total of ONE time in the last 15 years. Lions sucked for so long, its even a wonder they were an actual NFL team.

The Steelers would be like the Cardinals. They would still compete for titles no matter what.
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2000-Yankees
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2013-Red Sox

9 different teams in 14 seasons. No back to back titles. Baseball's "competitive advantage" is a fallacy. As a matter of fact, since the Yankees started buying players, they havent been as successful as they were in the late 90s. And Boston sold off all their high priced guys to the Dodgers two years ago and they won the title this year.

I am a big supporter of the free market. I also do not like not having the chance at building a long sustaining dynasty when you have that once in a lifetime chance.
You are going to get a small market team in the playoffs from time to time in baseball but you are not going to get a small market dynasty because the small market team cannot retain its players and run up multiple playoff appearances - a small market team may get on a roll for one year but that is about it because it is more difficult for the small market team to run the gauntlet of the regular season to get to the playoffs - the Pirates have some great young players - let's see how many end up in Boston, New York or LA

Someone did the math

The regression analyses of the four periods confirm our hypothesis that team payroll has significantly impacted regular season success in the free agent era. The ability to purchase talent on an open market and a six month, 162 game season diminish the random elements of professional competition, leading to the expected effects of team payroll on regular season winning percentage.


http://digitalcommons.iwu.edu/cgi/vi...46&context=uer

Two teams have won 3 or more World Series since the mid-1990s - the Red Sox and the Yankees

Multiple winners in that period have been Giants and Cardinals

All 4 teams are in the top 10 for payroll

http://www.stevetheump.com/Payrolls.htm

Money still matters

Baseball's final four has for years been heavily comprised of teams that are among the league's financial elite. Since the Rays made their stunning run to the World Series in 2008 with a payroll that ranked 29th, just one similarly tightfisted team has even reached the LCS: the 2010 Rangers, who ranked 26th. That Texas team, though, was driven by a cadre of maturing players who were on the cusp of demanding wages that far exceeded what they were then earning, and whose demands the Rangers were largely able to meet.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb...#ixzz2tsy7AsFH
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Owners didn't over spend that year because they knew it would come back to bite them in the ass the next year! Ask the Pirates how they feel about no cap, every time that got talent someone would come in and swoop them up, they were known as the only MLB farm team.
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9 different teams in 14 seasons. No back to back titles. Baseball's "competitive advantage" is a fallacy. As a matter of fact, since the Yankees started buying players, they havent been as successful as they were in the late 90s. And Boston sold off all their high priced guys to the Dodgers two years ago and they won the title this year.

I am a big supporter of the free market. I also do not like not having the chance at building a long sustaining dynasty when you have that once in a lifetime chance.
Compare for playoff teams, division winners and/or winning seasons over the same period of time.

Teams like the Yankees and Angels dominate while teams like Seattle and Baltimore wallow.
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If salary cap didn't exist then small market teams, especially in this day and age where the sport is getting ever popular in large markets, such as the Steelers and Packers will have a hard time resigning their players. Getting even a decent QB (ahem Joe Flacco) costs over $120mill. If most of your money over a period of time is going to one player then you can't build the team. On the flip side if you don't have a QB you're not going far no matter how talented (Bengals).
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Disagree. Salary caps make teams competitive. Can you imagine if the NFL turned into the MLB?
Totally agree. The Salary cap is one of the reasons why the NFL is so good. If there was not salary cap, you would have 4-6 teams in this league that would buy up all the best free agents, leading to those same teams making the playoffs all the time. This is just my opinion though.
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