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Old 03-06-2014, 01:37 PM   #21
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It's not specifically pointing out illegal migrant worker either.


I never learned how to milk cows.
Driving age in this state use to be 14. Why? So kids could drive during harvest.
Some knowledge is assumed in the reader.

http://cis.org/feere/child-labor-and...al-immigration

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/13/us...anted=all&_r=0
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Old 03-06-2014, 02:28 PM   #22
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A great talent of the US government is in maintaining a straight face while deploring conduct that is A SECRET policy in the US

here's the difference....
I was unaware all policies of the Chinese government are not secret - I suppose if they have secret policies we would not know about them

As far as "secret" policies of the U.S. I guess that is why it is called surveillance (the act of carefully watching someone or something especially in order to prevent or detect a crime)

I have major issues with programs such as PRISM. But as far as U.S. law is concerned, a compelling argument can be made that the actions taken under PRISM have been undertaken pursuant to the Patriot Act, as amended, and are not in violation of the 4th Amendment.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...programs-work/

Congress lost its collective mind after 9-11. But it still has the Article I authority to pass stupid legislation. As Justice Scalia puts it (when it suits his purposes):

A lot of stuff that’s stupid is not unconstitutional. I gave a talk once where I said they ought to pass out to all federal judges a stamp, and the stamp says—Whack! [Pounds his fist.]—STUPID BUT ­CONSTITUTIONAL. Whack! [Pounds again.] STUPID BUT ­CONSTITUTIONAL! Whack! ­STUPID BUT ­CONSTITUTIONAL … [Laughs.] And then somebody sent me one.

http://nymag.com/news/features/antonin-scalia-2013-10/

As far as international law goes, there is an argument to be made there as well.

Unlike espionage in times of war, public international law does not contain any specific rules with respect to espionage in times of peace. Consequently, espionage in times of peace is covered by the Lotus-Principle pursuant to which States, by virtue of being sovereign, are free to engage in any activities that are not expressly prohibited by international law. On the other hand, States that are spied upon are free, by virtue of their sovereignty, to criminalize the spying activities of individuals for foreign intelligence agencies, as done by Germany in its Criminal Code. However, this does not mean that the foreign State commits an internationally wrongful act when engaging in espionage.


http://cjicl.org.uk/2013/11/06/tappi...rnational-law/

Again, what is bad public policy is not necessarily illegal.

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dan i think your confused... the chinese aren't in denial.. their point to this is to point out the hypocrisy coming out of DC. basically they're saying clean up your own house instead of worrying about mine.
kinda like kerry and his retarded rant about russia making up excuses to invade a sovereign country.
It is all power politics - the Chinese government does not give a rip about being cited for human rights abuses by the U.S. but is having some fun for domestic propaganda consumption by throwing rocks at the U.S.

But IMO the idea the abuses of the U.S. are in the same solar system as the abuses by the Chinese government is laughable, starting with the core human right that the U.S. elects its government (yeah I know, the election process could be more open - but there still are elections).

It is like listening to the Browns tell the Steelers how to run their team.

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It is like listening to the Browns tell the Steelers how to run their team.

Now China is really going to be pissed.
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Now China is really going to be pissed.


Great, let's piss off China so they'll jack up the price for our golf clubs even more.

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