Lynn Swann update....

[Stlrs4Life]

I read the book also, and was surprised about it. He was 1 great receiver, but doesn't sound like a very personable person. Shame.

[LambertLunatic]

And as far as my opinion of Swann...it's personal experiences, yes plural, that have formed this opinion. Before you open your mouth, maybe you should establish the facts. Read ALL the information.

No need to get angry. I merely stated that I wouldn't rely on a single book to form my opinions. I wasn't aware that you've had personal experiences with Lynn Swann. In your original post you stated that you ascertained your information from a specific book. That was the line that I responded to.

Since I'm unlikely to hang out and drink beer with either Swann or Ed Rendell, neither man's personality is of major concern to me. Personally, I'm hoping for a Swann victory in November only because of my disgust with Ed Rendell's decision to disqualify the absentee ballots that arrived late in the 2004 election. I know from experience how slow the mail can be from Navy ships, and hated to see our military personell's votes thrown out. You may be willing to overlook this due to your agreement with Rendell's other policies. I'm not willing to overlook this. This is simply a political disagreement. If this were a political board, I'd be happy to discuss this further with you. Since this is a football board though, can we bury the hatchet and agree that Swann was a great receiver for the Steelers?

Trying to steer this conversation toward the Steelers, I'd like to state that Lynn Swann is my 3rd favorite Steeler receiver of all time, behind Ward and Stalworth. Some of his catches were truely amazing. Without Swann on those 70's teams, I very much doubt that Bradshaw would have been the elite QB that he was.

[LambertIsGod58]

First, if you had read all the posts in this and the other thread, you would see my entry stating that Swann was a great player...I'm not taking away anything from him there. It's his character as a person. If character doesn't play a part in your and anyone else's voting practices...so be it. I'm stating that it's a very important part of mine. And furthermore, I'm not angry for anything you said. I state my take on a particular issue and don't really care who disagrees. That is their right. And as far as Swann's importance to those teams of the 70's...If he was so important...why did it take almost 20 years for him to get into the HOF....oh wait....let me guess. The can't have too many Steelers arguement...right? Swann and Stallworth were great receivers....but HOF material I'm not so sure.

[LambertIsGod58]

Here are the stats for Lynn Swann's career:

+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1974 pit | 11 | 1 14 14.0 0 | 11 208 18.9 2 |
| 1975 pit | 14 | 3 13 4.3 0 | 49 781 15.9 11 |
| 1976 pit | 12 | 1 2 2.0 0 | 28 516 18.4 3 |
| 1977 pit | 14 | 2 6 3.0 0 | 50 789 15.8 7 |
| 1978 pit | 16 | 1 7 7.0 0 | 61 880 14.4 11 |
| 1979 pit | 13 | 1 9 9.0 1 | 41 808 19.7 5 |
| 1980 pit | 13 | 1 -4 -4.0 0 | 44 710 16.1 7 |
| 1981 pit | 13 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 34 505 14.9 5 |
| 1982 pit | 9 | 1 25 25.0 0 | 18 265 14.7 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 115 | 11 72 6.5 1 | 336 5462 16.3 51 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

[LambertIsGod58]

61 receptions in a year at best? 336 career receptions doesn't make the top 50 of All-Time. Yeah, I can see how he made Bradshaw....

[LambertIsGod58]

Stallworth is at least in the top 50 for receptions...


+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1974 pit | 13 | 1 -9 -9.0 0 | 16 269 16.8 1 |
| 1975 pit | 11 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 20 423 21.1 4 |
| 1976 pit | 8 | 1 47 47.0 1 | 9 111 12.3 2 |
| 1977 pit | 14 | 6 47 7.8 0 | 44 784 17.8 7 |
| 1978 pit | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 41 798 19.5 9 |
| 1979 pit | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 70 1183 16.9 8 |
| 1980 pit | 3 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 9 197 21.9 1 |
| 1981 pit | 16 | 1 17 17.0 0 | 63 1098 17.4 5 |
| 1982 pit | 9 | 1 9 9.0 0 | 27 441 16.3 7 |
| 1983 pit | 4 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 8 100 12.5 0 |
| 1984 pit | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 80 1395 17.4 11 |
| 1985 pit | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 75 937 12.5 5 |
| 1986 pit | 11 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 34 466 13.7 1 |
| 1987 pit | 12 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 41 521 12.7 2 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 165 | 10 111 11.1 1 | 537 8723 16.2 63 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+