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Old 01-28-2006, 05:29 PM   #81
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ok, you are either just being the Devil's Advocate or dont be trying to get smart on me now.
lets see how Ben does in his first SB if the game is tied with 1:21 left and no timeouts and his defense totally gassed so that the game HAS to be won right there.
i relish that opportunity. hes proven he can do just that plenty of times in his short career. (dallas, jax, san diego, pats, jets, etc. the 2 minute drill is nothing to him) in fact i contend had he not made the game saving tackle against nick harper in the colts game ben wouldve driven the team down to score a td with a minute left in the game.

just remember tom brady didnt invent, nor does he have a monopoly on the game winning drive (contrary to what patfans believe)
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Old 01-28-2006, 07:07 PM   #82
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i relish that opportunity. hes proven he can do just that plenty of times in his short career. (dallas, jax, san diego, pats, jets, etc. the 2 minute drill is nothing to him) in fact i contend had he not made the game saving tackle against nick harper in the colts game ben wouldve driven the team down to score a td with a minute left in the game.

just remember tom brady didnt invent, nor does he have a monopoly on the game winning drive (contrary to what patfans believe)
nobody said he did. last time i checked Elway has the record with like 61 of them or so.
And Montana,Unitas,and Starr too. And dont forget a guy named Staubach. Its not just the number but when its done. Brady happens to be the best at it today.
Ben has had some great ones. theres just something about doing it to win a championship that just cant be blown off. Or assumed that another can do until he does.
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Old 01-28-2006, 07:21 PM   #83
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Default Re: First day at Patriot training camp, Glengarry Glen Ross,R.I.

is that a testament to brady or a knock on his supporting cast? plummer had a great # of come from behind wins with the cardinals.

elway does hold that record. and theres no way a 2nd year player like ben could ever match the accomplishments of a 6 year veteran like brady (3 sb in his 1st 2 years just dont add up). us meager steelerfans would just be happy with winning 1 belichick trophy regardless of whos at qb.
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[QUOTE=tony hipchest]is that a testament to brady or a knock on his supporting cast? plummer had a great # of come from behind wins with the cardinals.QUOTE]

I believe I addressed that already. Were any of Plummers come from behind win in the Super Bowl???
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Old 09-13-2006, 01:49 PM   #85
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The idea was you were going to show us how Brady was affected in a Peyton Manning like fashion once he got hit early - you are saying his game deteriorates massively if he feels the heat.

Im telling you he couldnt have won all those regular season games, all those playoff games and all those SB's by being noticeably rattled after a big early hit!

We'll be waiting for your numerous examples of Brady wilting under the pressure of a "big early hit" - im sure you can list one Brady example for every Manning example we give you.

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hey! whadda you know? thats 2 games in a row where brady wilts after getting hit early. a fumble returned for a td is a great way to open up the season. sub .500 completion %. a bad int. 163 yds passing. offensively getting handled by the lowly bills! good thing dick jauron and the pats ty warren bailed brady out this time.

(damn this was a good thread. of course it wouldnt be as great if i were wrong.)

anyways the formula is in place. hit brady early and he will lose focus and start making uncharacteristic mistakes. he has a tendency to fold when rattled.
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Come on. He said that he was thinking about Branch, and how he doesn't have anyone to throw the ball to anymore.
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Come on. He said that he was thinking about Branch, and how he doesn't have anyone to throw the balls to anymore.
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