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Old 07-18-2005, 01:40 PM   #11
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Default Re: Is it time for JoePA to retire?

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Deserves as long as he has a plan. Can't remember after Arrington, a Lion getting drafted high? A little help here...
Lavar was selected 2nd overall in 2000. He was actually picked behind his Penn State teammate Courtney Brown who was the first overall pick by the Browns.

In 2003 Penn State had four players selected in the first round.....

- Jimmy Kennedy .......Rams DT..........12th pick
- Michael Haynes ........Bears DE..........14th pick
- Bryant Johnson ........Cardinals WR....17th pick
- Larry Johnson ..........Chiefs RB .........27th pick
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:13 AM   #12
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With that answered, and those guys gone, who is left to replace. Just seems other big schools don't take as long to retool as Penn State does now.
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Old 07-19-2005, 01:50 PM   #13
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Default Re: Is it time for JoePA to retire?

Do you know the difference between Papa Joe and God? Papa Joe wears glasses.

If Papa Joe wants to stay he SHOULD stay, he DESERVES to do anything he wants to do.
When a person gets older they should spend their "golden years" any way they want and obviously like anything else all of our ideas on what one should do vary, if we agreed it would be a pretty boring world. :)
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Old 07-19-2005, 02:42 PM   #14
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Default Re: Is it time for JoePA to retire?

Joe PA is a legend. No doubt about that. But it's time for him to head off into the sunset if the expectation is for Penn St. to get better. He can stick around, but the sub .500 seasons will continue.

I do agree with BB2W that Zack Mills was one of the worst QB's I've ever seen attempt to lead a major college football team. Just unreal how awful he was.
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Old 07-20-2005, 10:26 AM   #15
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Default Re: Is it time for JoePA to retire?

Lets just give an example of what I fear. Sub .500 seasons continue(slight tarnish to a great career) and Joe decides to keep at it. Finally school and boosters force hime out(even more of a tarnish). My thought is unless he produces a winning team/championship level, then he isn't doing anything a new guy couldn't do. And he will be doing it at the cost of his career and the University. Better walk out when you have choice. I was always told its not hard to know when to get in, its hard to know when to get out. Like Favre, what is worse... hanging it up a year early, or getting benched and having that be your last image. I do want Joe to have a great lasting moment to walk away with, but I worry it might have already happened.
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Old 08-11-2005, 11:19 AM   #16
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No Need To Retire For Joe Paterno.
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