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Old 01-17-2007, 10:01 PM   #21
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Default Re: Peter King:The steelers are in the bottom third of the league

I liken him to a Ron Borges who happened to get a fluke break.

Idiots, the both of them, with one being more recognizable.
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Old 01-18-2007, 01:53 AM   #22
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Default Re: Peter King:The steelers are in the bottom third of the league

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Please explain to me what the difference is. Whether you didn't have the talent, or the talent didn't perform, in either case you can't count that as a win.
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Your right on that...

but let me give it a shot at the difference.

When a team gets beat, the idea is that they simply can not perform at the same level as the other team... like us and the Ravens. If that happens too often, it takes a change of players, coaches, etc. to fix it.

When a team beats themselves, It not a matter of talent, but mistakes or coaching problems. It just takes tweaking and hard work to fix this.

The reason it makes a difference, is a team that beats themself to a 6-10 record could easily be 15-1 the next year and win the SB the next. A team that gets beat every year has to make much deeper and broader changes.

Just my thoughts... But in the record books... Your right. A loss is a loss.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:28 AM   #23
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did you see the steelers this year? they were horrible. getting beaten by the worst team in the NFL too. imagine, losing to the raiders who are coached by art shell. that is truly embarrassing.
I saw our guys this year--every single game, right down to the bitter (or triumphant) last few seconds. Heck--I even watched most of the after game shows.

Our guys did NOT play to their potential this year. And yes, we got beaten by the Raiders, and I THOUGHT that was the most embarrassing thing to have happen--that is until we were beaten the SECOND time by the Ravens. And maybe it's just because it's a division rival, but I found that harder to swallow. I could've handled ONE loss to them, but BOTH games???

However, our season coulda been worse--"horrible" (to me) is going 6-12 or less. That would put us in the league with the Browns, the Raiders, the Lions, the Buccs, etc, etc...and thank GOD we weren't THAT bad

I'm not THRILLED with 8-8, but it ended up better than we all expected after our first half of the season--and we DID get to knock the Bengals out of the playoffs...again
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:33 AM   #24
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Default Re: Peter King:The steelers are in the bottom third of the league

I guess what I'm trying to say is that there's essentially no effective difference between not having the talent to do better than 8-8, and having the talent but not doing better than 8-8. It's two different ways of being mediocre. Neither one should get you a higher ranking than you deserve, and in King's system we didn't get that.

My opinion is that we had the talent to go 14-2; I could see losing to the Ravens once and to the Jags. We could have won every other game. But, it didn't happen that way and here we are. Crow sandwich.


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did we bottom out this year.... YES.... losing to the Raiders marks the official, "its okay to panic day" ......but lets face it.... there are about 31 other NFL teams who would love to "bottom out" at an even .500 record..... look at what the pats did in 2002.... 9-7 missed the playoffs.

lotta work to do this offseason...but we should be right back in the hunt in 07
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Default Re: Peter King:The steelers are in the bottom third of the league

Even though KC and NYG made the playoffs, they both suck!!! The Giants will be lucky to win 5 games next year. Coughlin will be fired before week 8. Also, we are better than the Rams and Titans. We are better than most of those teams, but WE DO HAVE TO PROVE IT. Too many errors and mental mistakes. There was only two teams ranked in the top 10 in both offense and defense. They were the CHargers and the STEELERS!
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You earn your praise/rankings. We did not earn a damn thing this year besides an early vacation.

I have no problem with his rankings. It's our job to prove him/them wrong next year.
Good point 83, nut it is a little too far down for us. I'd say middle.
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