Randy Moss To The Patriots?

[Livinginthe past]

Originally Posted by tony hipchest

brady really cant get the ball downfield can he? youre comparing r. moss to those 3? newsflash- moss has more td receptions in his rookie year than those 3 combined. maybe the reason they have 34 catches is because they suck. oh, and theyre all gone now, along with d. givens and d. branch.

charles rogers- lazy, dopehead, backmouths coaches and the team, doesnt give 100%. what were you saying about disrupting locker room chemistry? must suck when your own team proves you wrong.

See above.

NM

[dropKickMurphy]

Originally Posted by HometownGal

....Kraft is a cheapo and a miser....

Kraft has invested an enormous amount of his own $$$ into this franchise. That is why the Patriots are ranked as the 2nd most valuable franchise (behind Washington) in the NFL.

Unlike Heinze Field, Gillette was financed ($400 million) entirely with private funds. No taxpayer $$$ went into its construction.

Is that the definition of a miser?

[tony hipchest]

Originally Posted by dropKickMurphy

Kraft has invested an enormous amount of his own $$$ into this franchise. That is why the Patriots are ranked as the 2nd most valuable franchise (behind Washington) in the NFL.

Unlike Heinze Field, Gillette was financed ($400 million) entirely with private funds. No taxpayer $$$ went into its construction.

Is that the definition of a miser?

it is if hes just spending all that money to build up a property just as an investment or to sell it for a hefty profit. owners like d. snyder and g steinbrenner easilly spend that ammount of money on PAYROLL in an attempt to field the best team possible. in both cases they are usually maxed out every year. you see they are rich and not interrested in saving a penny or concerned about overpaying a kicker or pitcher.

[hardwork]

Originally Posted by dropKickMurphy

Kraft has invested an enormous amount of his own $$$ into this franchise. That is why the Patriots are ranked as the 2nd most valuable franchise (behind Washington) in the NFL.

Unlike Heinze Field, Gillette was financed ($400 million) entirely with private funds. No taxpayer $$$ went into its construction.

Is that the definition of a miser?

That's right. He's only put up a privately funded stadium, been to 4 SBs, and won three of them. Yeah, a real miser with only himself in mind. The NFL would get down on their knees and beg if it would bring them another owner like Kraft, and a franchise like the Patriots.

[tony hipchest]

Originally Posted by Livinginthe past

This subject has been batted around for a few days now on the Patriots forum, but more as a 'fantasy scenario' rather than something that might actually happen.



NM

stay tuned patfans. john clayton reports belichick LOVES randy moss, and the feelers have already been put out.

and since this never was (and now, most definitely isnt) the case:

We have one of the best RB combo's in the league - why would we be airing out long bombs -

this scenario is much closer to reality than initially thought. moss is a numbers guy though and i still feel he'd do much better with farve in green bay

[CantStop85]

Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Chad Jackson, Reche Caldwell...certainly an interesting receiving corps.

[tony hipchest]

this thread was fun:

Originally Posted by Livinginthe past

No, let me guess...you know better than the Patriots and Seahawks (teams that have contested the last 3 SB's) management about a players trade value

NM

uhhh... yeah! football isnt quite rocket science, although im pretty good at that too

Originally Posted by tony hipchest

how'd that trade work out for the seahawks? they wouldve been better off trading for moss. but then again their mgmt has had a few off season blunders:

not franchising hutchinson
overpaying for burleson
overpaying for branch

peter king seems to agree (as im sure mike holmgren does too):

e. I can just feel Mike Holmgren fuming. He's thinking: Last year we let Steve Hutchinson go for $7 million a year, and now $7 million is the going rate for a guard who can walk and chew gum at the same time.

f. I mean it: Mike Holmgren is not happy about this.

[Livinginthe past]

Its hard to say whats going on in Moss's head as regards what he wants from his next team.

Does he value catches/yards/TD's over the chance of getting a ring?

I think he definitely would be happier with the playcalling of the Packers - interceptions dont reflect on a receivers numbers and Brett rarely lets 3/4 interception games make him conservative.

I'd be excited to have Moss on the team, because that would mean the Patriots FO were confident he was the right man - howevere im far from convinced that is the case.

I've read all sorts of crazy stuff on the Patriots board with fans desperate to justify Moss's history - he loves the game, yet takes plays off ...contradictory stuff like that...etc etc

The latest wisdom is that the solid vet presense in the Patriots lockerroom could be enough to make Moss see the error of his ways.

Maybe when Schefter brings something a bit more concrete i'll be excited - he seems to have been spot on so far.

On a related note, i've heard strong rumors (stronger than the Moss ones anyway) that Stallworth is very keen to sign a 1 year deal with the Patriots to show them, and the rest of the league what he can do.

Thats probably contingent on the eagles not re-signing him, who I think are his first choice.


Its one to keep an eye on anyway.

[Big D]

clayton just said moss isnt going to the patriots. The reason being they just gave up a second and 7th pick for welker.

[tony hipchest]

Originally Posted by Big D

clayton just said moss isnt going to the patriots. The reason being they just gave up a second and 7th pick for welker.

yeah he said only if the raiders are dumping him for a 3rd. hard to imagine welker worth a 2nd but moss only worth a third. stallworth is due to visit there today, and ive felt all along if the eagles dont keep him he would wind up a pat. latest words are he has a few strikes against him and may be facing some suspension time for smokin the ganga.

hed be the best wr pats have seen since terry glenn. eagles are stupid to let him go (to any team)