Food for thought....

[tony hipchest]

suitanim- this site really seems like a pats propoganda site with a napoleon complex spin, designed to make the pats out as the greatest team ever and denegrate anything else the other teams have accomplished. fact is cowboys and s.f. have 5 champs, pittsburgh 4 and pats 3. yet sites like these will contend that c. noll, t. landry and b. walsh were too stupid to figure out how to manage the cap like b. belichick has. they will say that patriots face much tougher competition, ignoring the fact that the steelers battled powerhouses like raiders and dolphins of the 70's for a whole decade. yet this site is "unbiassed". attempts of a patfan practically calling out a steelerfan to go there (otherwise steelerfan lack cojones) almost seems like a frat house treasure hunt for shits and giggles. if chff already had all the "facts" why scour a steelerboard for more? nice take on the rooneys and 'capology'. im sure (about 49% of) patfans would just call facts like those "whining" or "excuses": however steelerfans know that while many still believe the rooneys to be cheap and not paying their players, they have had one of the highest salaries and maxed out to the salary cap ever since they opened a new stadium to generate revenue.

[Suitanim]

Well, all I know is this: I'm not going there. There's no sense trying to convince know-it-alls while they are gathered en masse, even when they are wrong and misguided.

[Livinginthe past]

Originally Posted by Suitanim

Well, all I know is this: I'm not going there. There's no sense trying to convince know-it-alls while they are gathered en masse, even when they are wrong and misguided.

Hey that is both a poignant and hugely relevant remark Suitanim.

I couldnt have phrased it better if I tried.

NM

[Suitanim]

Did you read the part about "I'm not going there"?

[tony hipchest]

Originally Posted by Suitanim

Did you read the part about "I'm not going there"?

it seems facts often go ignored by patfans anyways.

DISCLAIMER: "patfans" is being used as a general term and in no way intended to lump every patriot fan on earth together. im sure there are a few exceptions to the rule.

[Livinginthe past]

Originally Posted by Suitanim

Did you read the part about "I'm not going there"?

Yes I did.

[ironcitychef]

I have always agreed on the SF/DAL having 5 thing which is why I like giving Pats fans crap until they get their fourth, no matter how long ago we got ours. As for the salary cap, I think it is a great achievement for the Pats to be really the only franchise in the modern era to dominate over a long consistent period, but it should never be said that those great coaches are less because they couldn't have done it. Fact is they didn't even have to worry about it. How many of you work in some cappacity where your company pays the people who report to you where all you have to do is supervise? I know I do, not that I couldn't pay my guys, but it would just be another thing in my to do list every day. It will always be two different view points around the salary cap effect, but all who win multiple Super Bowls are in elite company.

[slashsteel]

which is why I like giving Pats fans crap until they get their fourth,

You won't see a fourth in this decade. They are done stick a fork in them.

I think it is a great achievement for the Pats to be really the only franchise in the modern era to dominate over a long consistent period, but it should never be said that those great coaches are less because they couldn't have done it.

Dominate? They squeeked by with three wins. Hardly domination. A good run, but I want to see them win one more before giving them a era domination title...... like dallas, niners, and our team holds...........