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Old 05-10-2007, 09:46 AM   #11
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....any truth to the rumor that Marvin Lewis tendered contract offers to them...?
no, but there is speculation that 2 of them are his illegitimate children.

i think for punishment these kids should be painted black and gold, and thrown into the dawg pound in cleveland after a steelers ass whipping, as the jumbotron displays what they did. instead of being "stoned", they can be "dog biscuted" by 60,000 people.
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:01 AM   #12
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Good luck passing that one by the ACLU...lol. They would have a field day with that one. With these two, it seems like the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
I have a friend that works for the probation department....He went to a house to talk with one of his juvenile offenders, and at 1 p.m. the 16 year old kid was still in bed...the mother was in her bathrobe...and the unemployed dad was watching TV. The Mother(instead of getting up)..screams through the house for her son to get out of bed,..then looks at my buddy and says..."I dont know what is wrong with that F***ing kid.
My buddy looks at the filthy house...the disconnected Dad..the overweight Mom in the bathrobe..and simply says...."You plant a potato...you'll get a potato"
To which the mother ...looking confused..replies.."We dont have a garden"

.....nuff said
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:11 PM   #13
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I'm an animal lover and truly want to see these kids punished. But this is also disturbing because of the "slippery slope" effect. Today this cruel behaviour is OK because its "just a dog" Tomorrow its OK because its "just a homeless person" . . . Oh wait that's today too. read this story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18591806/
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This is a disturbing case. I'm no criminal psychologist, but many of today's serial killers started out experimenting with animals. Dahmer used to dissect dead animals. Richard Kuklinski used to put cats (alive) into incinerators. He also used to tie their tails together and watch them fight to the death. The MacDonald triad speaks volumes.

I'm not stating these two disturbed individuals will automatically turn into serial killers later in life, but it's something to keep in mind when hearing about these type of situations.
That's a good point. These kids don't kill people or children first because they know they would get caught because when people go missing, other people notice, but dogs go missing all the time, and it's no big deal. I think the difference is that dogs are completely defenseless through their friendliness and will wag their tail in a friendly manner at people they don't know even after those people have been mean to them.
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Wow, I can't stand when people hurt people, much less when people hurt innocent animals. Lock their asses up forever, they deserve it.
I hope the puppy can still be normal, without any agression towards humans that is.
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I'm an animal lover and truly want to see these kids punished. But this is also disturbing because of the "slippery slope" effect. Today this cruel behaviour is OK because its "just a dog" Tomorrow its OK because its "just a homeless person" . . . Oh wait that's today too. read this story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18591806/
thanks for the link, which helps to perfectly express my concern. im sure this 10 year old has killed a dog or 2.

this story in my town could with the pup could easilly be like the case in england about 10 years ago where the 2 kids lured a toddler away from the shopping mall to the train tracks and killed him for fun.

unfortunately punishing kids for something they might do is unconstitutional, and current rehab efforts are a complete joke.

i guess we just roll with the punches and accept it as part of the world we live in today.
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Let me answer that for you....Its a Federal crime to break an eagles egg, with a $5,000 dollar fine and up to two years in prison ....yet abortions are legal.
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Tony - thx. I'm shocked, speechless and saddened.
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Eagles are rarer than humans
they dont murder humans or maliciously try to kill dogs with a slab of concrete either.

but in the instance of the 15 year old girl in this article, i think i would much rather see her sterilized as a punishment for her crimes (if she is ever rehabilitated she can adopt) rather than have an abortion herself or simply kill her crack addicted child for crying.
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Wow, thanks NC! I never thought of it that way! Hopefully, if we work at it, there will be the exact same number of all species.
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